TroyByonn said:
I think the "simplest" way is to use an 8-sided hub and just let all the rafters meet up there.
Hey Troy,
Great to hear I was of some help!
You're thinking of how to do it simply is most correct...Even if "stick building" there really isn't any need for hard wardwear of any type. Just bring all members up to their intersecting point...be it 4, 8, 16, 24, or even more...and peg, spline or mortise & tenon... Actually, the more rafters in many designs make it stronger and simpler because the..."eye's view"...is distracted by all the intersecting timbers and doesn't tend to focus as succinctly onto any small openings that may exist. With only 4 or 8 rafters those fissures between Rafters tend to be much more obvious...then in turn...become a focal point themselves.
TroyByonn said:
Do you know of any books in japanese dealing with these topics? Or any other language?
Yes...I have an Amazon book list I give students. Note: I use Amazon because it is the most convenient place to have the list...I don't solicit for or recommend any set vendor...and actually like local bookstores and collectors for my personal sources whenever possible.
Most (not all) of these are in English on my Amazon Book List. The ones in other languages are overseas, in collections, and/or out of print and difficult to find except by academics and "Nerds" :nerd2: like me... Plus, making sense out of them is a full time job in itself unless already a very accomplished historical woodworker...but it sure is fun if you do get into this more deeply Troy!!!
TroyByonn said:
I'll need more time to go over all the images and decide on something simple enough so I can actually build it, but I'll be coming back with more questions
I might be slow, but I'll be here...:wink2:
Feel free to email me also if you would like...
TroyByonn said:
We have lowest winter temperatures of about -20°C (~-4°F). Would it work to dig 8 holes to about 1m, fill them with rubble, put a stone on each and place the octagon posts on those stones? or would I have to actually put concrete in the holes? I'd love to have some way of making the foundation without concrete :-/
First...I despise OPC (modern Ordinary Portland Cements) of any kind...!!!
They are a major environmental polluter, and seldom standup to the their claims as well as the Cement Industry would like to have their consumers believe...It's nasty S_ _ _T!!!...all in all. I only employ it on projects when some "Numbnut" thinks it has to be used, or there is some other urgent need for it out of my design control...
Unfortunately Natural Cements have become cost inhibitive and few even know they can get it. Traditional Geopolymers are coming back into understanding and use, but that again is outside the scope of most DIYers...
So, that brings us back to good old...tried, true, and prove...Plinth Stones and/or Dry Laid stone foundation...(traditional brick with lime mortar is grand too!!..:grin
In short...Go with gravel below local frost levels and a nice rock!!!
I will point out for those that are thinking or suggesting that this could get blown over that it is no more likely to get blown over than any other structure hit by a major wind event...The structure (whether on concrete or stone) can be tied to the foundation if it is really necessary...but with a timber frame, it can always be taken apart and moved or sold...can't really do that with freaking concrete, 2x and the related crap that goes into architecture today...
I would also point out that the traditional frames in Japan are the only structure in the world to be subjected to an Atomic Blast and keep standing...the modern structures blew apart...so I think stone plinths have more than proven they are up to the task of supporting architecture a hell of a lot better than most of the "junk building" we do today...but that's just my view of modernity in generally...It's new, but it sure as heck ain't better...
Till Later Troy...enjoy Nerding Out on all this...
j
