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Looks like the additional insurance cargo deal is the way to go...
 

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I think liability is on you unfortunately. Trying to sue anyone will be a drawn out hobby.

I don't think anyone else has a liability here. If there is an issue of liability, then discussing this issue on a public forum is not a wise idea.

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I am assuming you came to commiserate. I feel you! It is a sickening feeling as you see something sliding off your truck or trailer. It's never happened to me with something this heavy, but it has happened to me, and I understand it a little.

Once you brush yourself off, there is good advice on breaking down some parts and trying a to repair it. Powermatic certainly wants you to be happy with their products, and I expect they will do their best to make sure you get the best value out of your purchase whatever that means.
Oh no, I have absolutely assumed full liability (and stupidity)!! There is not a question of liability.

I posted only to vent my frustration/broken heart and to let it be a warning to fellow saw dust makers to always double check everything. Live and learn my friend, live and learn.
 

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Oh no, I have absolutely assumed full liability (and stupidity)!! There is not a question of liability.

I posted only to vent my frustration/broken heart and to let it be a warning to fellow saw dust makers to always double check everything. Live and learn my friend, live and learn.
I had meant to delete that first part. I got the posters confused at first. The liability comments were more relating to woodnthings 's post.
 
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I wouldn't give up just yet . Like woodnthings said things can get fixed. There are companies around that rebuild machinery.
Don't know where your at but here's one in northern Illinois that specializes in woodworking machines.
. I'm quite certain if you look hard enough there may be one in your neck of the woods.
Very well could be salvageable.
 

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Fixing that would chew up the $6300 purchase price pretty quickly.

If you think PM new equipment is pricey, wait 'til you see what parts cost.

Best bet is some consideration from PM for parts, after that selling the head and motor are probably your options.
 

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Contact power magic, talk to someone in customer support. Maybe they will be nice and send you the sheet metal and whatever else can be replaced.
If they do this, it will be the best advertising they can get, word of mouth.
my family owned a furniture store, a customer lost a queen size mattress off his truck, never found. My dad gave him another free of charge, knowing that he would advertise by word of mouth. I miss my dads wisdom.
 

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Apparently customers often sue their own insurance companies for several reasons:
 

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Well... My 1 man part time cabinet shop took a big hit this week...

With all my 2021 projects, I saved money and purchased a new PM209HH Planer at the end of the year. I found one in stock about 2 hours from the house. Went. Purchased it. Scheduled pickup for this week. Went down there, loaded it up, strapped it good (or so I thought) and began my way home.

I got within a mile of my house and look in the rearview mirror just in time to watch my chunk of gold (not only in color, but price) slide off the side of the pallet and begin tumbling. My heart instantly sank... And a few 4 letter words spewed out. Not sure if the staps slipped off the truck hooks or pallet broke or what, but whatever happened, also totaled my brand new planer.... After going home and getting the bobcat, loading this hunk of junk back on the trailer, and getting out of my neighbors front yard, I just quit for the day... Emotional sick. And of course, auto insurance/homeowners insurance doesnt cover my $6300 purchase.

With all that said. Let my misery serve as a reminder. If you think you have it strapped good, strap it 2 more times. And stop and check it along the way....

Busted the cast iron. Bent the frame. Severed the top rolling bar, bent up all the metal, and busted the belt cover, electrical cover, and switch box. Per Redmonds, a total loss... So anyone looking for 5 HP PM motor or 20" Helical Head? They are about the only things salvageable worth any money.

But today is a new day. So chin up!


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[If you paid with a credit/debit card, some of the banks offer purchase protection for the first 90
days, for damaged or lost items. For that amount, you might check with the card you used to make the purchase, if you used a card.
 

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Some credit card companies offer purchase protection for damaged or theft, at no cost to you. If you used a debit or credit card to make the purchase, it might be worth while to see if your bank offers purchase protection. Some only offer a few hundred dollars per claim, but others cover the full amount.
Just an fyi.
Sorry to hear about your day, does not sound fun.
 

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Fixing that would chew up the $6300 purchase price pretty quickly.

If you think PM new equipment is pricey, wait 'til you see what parts cost.

Best bet is some consideration from PM for parts, after that selling the head and motor are probably your options.
I don't see anything important that is broken in the pictures.
 

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Some credit card companies offer purchase protection for damaged or theft, at no cost to you. If you used a debit or credit card to make the purchase, it might be worth while to see if your bank offers purchase protection. Some only offer a few hundred dollars per claim, but others cover the full amount.
Just an fyi.
Sorry to hear about your day, does not sound fun.
Interesting….I’ll call them in the morning!! Will update afterwards! Thanks!!
 

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I don't see anything important that is broken in the pictures.
Base destroyed, moter mount (unseen) broke in half. Cast iron busted on two corners where it bolts together, about 1/4” out of line on all joints shifted to left, belt spindle bent, and 1 of the 4 side post looks bent when You pull up the black plastic sleeve.

the guy at redmonds machinery said it was total loss when I sent home pictures. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

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Contact power magic, talk to someone in customer support. Maybe they will be nice and send you the sheet metal and whatever else can be replaced.
If they do this, it will be the best advertising they can get, word of mouth.
my family owned a furniture store, a customer lost a queen size mattress off his truck, never found. My dad gave him another free of charge, knowing that he would advertise by word of mouth. I miss my dads wisdom.
Thank you!
ive Sent them and email with sad story and reached out on the gram. I figure I’ll give them a few days and if I don’t hear back I’ll give their 1-800 number a call!
 

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Fixing that would chew up the $6300 purchase price pretty quickly.

If you think PM new equipment is pricey, wait 'til you see what parts cost.

Best bet is some consideration from PM for parts, after that selling the head and motor are probably your options.
Unfortunately that is what the owner of the store I bought it from said as well. The are a machinery speciality shop and rebuild old units all the time, so I’m assuming he knows.
 

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Here in the UK, pick ups, trailers are not common. All heavy machinery companies offer delivery and if transit damage, then the item is down to them. I do prefer to transport items myself and use ratchet straps and elastic cords to secure.
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My first thought was “at least I have insurance I guess” but turns out it doesn’t cover cargo. For a $10,000 limit on cargo would be $300 a year. I just don’t see that being feasible (before this happened).

hone owners only covers personal property destroyed by fire, theft and water!!
Is not that planer personal property? Or do you list it as company property. Did you actually discuss this with the insurance company?

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You deserve some credit for even posting this, much less as a reminder for all.

Loads do shift. I picked up a pallet maybe 80 pcs of 12 foot 1x6 TG pine on my trailer and didn’t even strap it b/c at the same time both the guy and I said “that’s not going anywhere”.

100 miles down the road at a stop, 2’ of the pallet is hanging off the trailer……….

I always cross strap things now.
 

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Is not that planer personal property? Or do you list it as company property. Did you actually discuss this with the insurance company?

George
Personal Property. However home owners insurance only covers for:

fire
Theft
Flood
 
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