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Well... My 1 man part time cabinet shop took a big hit this week...

With all my 2021 projects, I saved money and purchased a new PM209HH Planer at the end of the year. I found one in stock about 2 hours from the house. Went. Purchased it. Scheduled pickup for this week. Went down there, loaded it up, strapped it good (or so I thought) and began my way home.

I got within a mile of my house and look in the rearview mirror just in time to watch my chunk of gold (not only in color, but price) slide off the side of the pallet and begin tumbling. My heart instantly sank... And a few 4 letter words spewed out. Not sure if the staps slipped off the truck hooks or pallet broke or what, but whatever happened, also totaled my brand new planer.... After going home and getting the bobcat, loading this hunk of junk back on the trailer, and getting out of my neighbors front yard, I just quit for the day... Emotional sick. And of course, auto insurance/homeowners insurance doesnt cover my $6300 purchase.

With all that said. Let my misery serve as a reminder. If you think you have it strapped good, strap it 2 more times. And stop and check it along the way....

Busted the cast iron. Bent the frame. Severed the top rolling bar, bent up all the metal, and busted the belt cover, electrical cover, and switch box. Per Redmonds, a total loss... So anyone looking for 5 HP PM motor or 20" Helical Head? They are about the only things salvageable worth any money.

But today is a new day. So chin up!


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oh my Goodness Gosh !!!
welcome to the forum - so sorry we had to meet under these very trying times for you.
we welcome you to our little sanctuary - hopefully you can regain some sort of calm here.
Thanks John! Its good to be back. I actually was a longtime member from prob 2010-2015, just couldnt remember my login.
 

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That is sickening...

You might contact PM and see if they have any sympathy for your case. Maybe hit them on social media if they have a presence as the pictures should induce a lot of sympathy.
That would require my pride to take a big hit in front of all my "facebook friends" ha-ha. But I didn't even think to reach out to PM. I may give it a go! Thanks!
 

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I would try to separate the "bent from the broken" parts and see what's left. Even broken cast iron can be brazed welded back together by an expert welder, heck, I've even done it! Bent cabinets can be straightened by a decent body shop, or body man who know how to straighten metal, It can also be sawed away and replaced. It can also be replaced.
I came very close to losing a tall 5 HP air compressor on a 25 mile drive from the store. One strap was cut through on a sharp edge leaving only one holding. I was 1 1/2 miles from home when i stopped to check things out. Close call for sure.
I am very surprised to there's hear no insurance coverage.
I rented a 4 wheel car carrier from a rental place. 2 miles from the store the triangle hitch broke right off the frame. I picked it up and put it in the back on my Suburban. I got to the store and threw it on the floor sayin "The rest of your trailer is down the road on the other side crashed into a snow bank. Come to find out it was stolen at one time, also broken off and an amatuer welded back together. Insurance covered the damage to my truck. O know different sitaution, but I wouldn't stop asking until I reached the highest insurance official I could find.
What if that thing had fallen into another vehicle or building or person?
So apparently auto only covers the liability of the item hit something or caused damage, but unless you have a separate cargo insurance policy the contents are not covered under Physical Damage. However a trailer would be because when being towed it is part of your insurance!

but yes! Trying to salvage will be my best option, I agree!
 

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Man, that sucks. Hope as you move forward things work out, like insurance. I’m a little surprised your auto insurance won’t cover some of this.

I dumped a table saw off the back of a pickup many years ago. Got lucky, the thing landed fairly flat on the pavement only wiping out the fence.
My first thought was “at least I have insurance I guess” but turns out it doesn’t cover cargo. For a $10,000 limit on cargo would be $300 a year. I just don’t see that being feasible (before this happened).

hone owners only covers personal property destroyed by fire, theft and water!!
 

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I did and thought it covered contents...

Do you chose not to write off each year?
Not sure how all of that works. I’ve been a hobbyist for 15 year and this was my first year as an actual LLC where I will pay taxes for my work. I started working for a contractor that requires a 10-99 so I just went for it.

so I am sure there are a lot of things I should be deducting that I am not.
 

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I think liability is on you unfortunately. Trying to sue anyone will be a drawn out hobby.

I don't think anyone else has a liability here. If there is an issue of liability, then discussing this issue on a public forum is not a wise idea.

@B&BCabinets

I am assuming you came to commiserate. I feel you! It is a sickening feeling as you see something sliding off your truck or trailer. It's never happened to me with something this heavy, but it has happened to me, and I understand it a little.

Once you brush yourself off, there is good advice on breaking down some parts and trying a to repair it. Powermatic certainly wants you to be happy with their products, and I expect they will do their best to make sure you get the best value out of your purchase whatever that means.
Oh no, I have absolutely assumed full liability (and stupidity)!! There is not a question of liability.

I posted only to vent my frustration/broken heart and to let it be a warning to fellow saw dust makers to always double check everything. Live and learn my friend, live and learn.
 

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Some credit card companies offer purchase protection for damaged or theft, at no cost to you. If you used a debit or credit card to make the purchase, it might be worth while to see if your bank offers purchase protection. Some only offer a few hundred dollars per claim, but others cover the full amount.
Just an fyi.
Sorry to hear about your day, does not sound fun.
Interesting….I’ll call them in the morning!! Will update afterwards! Thanks!!
 

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I don't see anything important that is broken in the pictures.
Base destroyed, moter mount (unseen) broke in half. Cast iron busted on two corners where it bolts together, about 1/4” out of line on all joints shifted to left, belt spindle bent, and 1 of the 4 side post looks bent when You pull up the black plastic sleeve.

the guy at redmonds machinery said it was total loss when I sent home pictures. 🤷🏻‍♂️
 

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Contact power magic, talk to someone in customer support. Maybe they will be nice and send you the sheet metal and whatever else can be replaced.
If they do this, it will be the best advertising they can get, word of mouth.
my family owned a furniture store, a customer lost a queen size mattress off his truck, never found. My dad gave him another free of charge, knowing that he would advertise by word of mouth. I miss my dads wisdom.
Thank you!
ive Sent them and email with sad story and reached out on the gram. I figure I’ll give them a few days and if I don’t hear back I’ll give their 1-800 number a call!
 

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Fixing that would chew up the $6300 purchase price pretty quickly.

If you think PM new equipment is pricey, wait 'til you see what parts cost.

Best bet is some consideration from PM for parts, after that selling the head and motor are probably your options.
Unfortunately that is what the owner of the store I bought it from said as well. The are a machinery speciality shop and rebuild old units all the time, so I’m assuming he knows.
 

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You deserve some credit for even posting this, much less as a reminder for all.

Loads do shift. I picked up a pallet maybe 80 pcs of 12 foot 1x6 TG pine on my trailer and didn’t even strap it b/c at the same time both the guy and I said “that’s not going anywhere”.

100 miles down the road at a stop, 2’ of the pallet is hanging off the trailer……….

I always cross strap things now.
My secure game will certainly increase now!!
 

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We had a different experience. Was towing a trailer full of contents to another state after dad died; Minnesota to Arkansas. We have State Farm. Didn't get coverage on the trailer as last I knew, it was covered by the full coverage from the tow vehicle. After accident, agent said trailer wasn't covered. She tried to run contents through homeowner's policy but since we were too far from home area that didn't work.

I cannot understand the contents in a pickup not being covered...unless you ONLY have liability?
Full coverage. But no accident or claim to the vehicle per my agent. If the truck Burned or was stolen it would be covered. Per my agent.
 
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