I'm sure there would be some clapping if I did change my name to that. That's not anywhere near yanking my chain. It takes more than that.:laughing:Cabinetman needs to change his name two I hate pocket holes man. I use many types of joinery each has its uses each has its drawbacks. There is always more than one technique to solve any problem. By the way C man just yanking your chain!
I think I'm being misunderstood. I don't think I ever said I hate pocket screws, or that it is wrong to use them. I think I've been courteous in portraying my opinion.
We are on a woodworking forum, and I hope my input promotes, suggests and emphasizes the essence of what the woodworking craft has been to many. I feel it's imperative for the preservation of the basic techniques, to address methods that newcomers may think is the "best" way to do joinery.
Pocket screws may be a "quick" assembly method. It may work for many who don't have the time or tooling to do traditional joinery. To wait an hour or so for a glue joint to dry may be a waste of time. I was going to list some threads from this and other forums of those with pocket screw problems. I was going to list many of those that were pertinent to conditions or procedures that screwed (sorry for the pun) up their work.
I see very few threads about how problematic dadoes, rabbets and some other methods are. For those that say that they have used pocket screws thousands of times, and have used them on multi-million dollar jobs, with no problems...way to go. I'm not badmouthing their use. I agree that a function of woodworking forums is to present products and procedures. For the most part hobbyists may be on a budget, or have a time restraint. For all the responses to purchase jigs and use alternative methods, there should be responses that teach and promote woodworking craftsmanship.
I feel there is a feeling of pride in workmanship, and to see fitting parts make up a project is very rewarding. For some that see the need for using pocket screws and biscuits for that matter, both the pros and cons of their use should be a point of discussion. This learning process can be a starting place in understanding the truths to the issues of whatever method or product is being used.
My input on issues is just my opinion. I appreciate contrasting points of view. I used to have a signature that went like this:
"I'm never wrong...but I might not always be right".