Congratulation on all you folk spending quality time in the shop with your kids. I never even had a shop when my 4 sons were growing but we spent time remodeling and making messes. I spent lots of time with the boys being their Scoutmaster - but having @ 30 Scouts to take care off, I never spent much time in the shop with them... still time well spent. Now my youngest is 27 - we have 5 grand daughters - and the "time" investment is paying us well. All 4 sons live within "commuting" distance and they all get along great. Life is good here :thumbsup: