Well,like real estate.... location is extremely important. There are places I'm sure that $1200 ($1k euro) for that might be reasonable. Here in the mnts of Virginia,in that condition with motor not installed,assuming the motor is acceptable we'd be looking at 6-800 dollars.

If the motor was on,and everything tracked... and it was straight,meaning no dents or slices, it "might" go 1000 dollars.

Condition,location,ease of pick up,and a couple other tid bits all factor in. But that's here. Go 3 states over and it could be half that. Good luck with your project.

 

Well,like real estate.... location is extremely important. There are places I'm sure that $1200 ($1k euro) for that might be reasonable. Here in the mnts of Virginia,in that condition with motor not installed,assuming the motor is acceptable we'd be looking at 6-800 dollars.

If the motor was on,and everything tracked... and it was straight,meaning no dents or slices, it "might" go 1000 dollars.

Condition,location,ease of pick up,and a couple other tid bits all factor in. But that's here. Go 3 states over and it could be half that. Good luck with your project.

after all the advice only you can make the decision

 

It could be a fine saw and then it might need a lot of work. I would check the upper and lower wheels and make sure they are not loose on the shaft. Make sure both tires are good. If it checks out I would buy it. Can't say about the price where you are, especially not knowing the size of the saw.

 

Thanks for your advice, 450 = between 17 and 18 inches.... I'm in Europe.

 

for those in the United States if I guess on the flag logo is Ireland then power is
Electrical Standards

• Voltage: 230V
• Frequency: 50Hz
• Plug Type: Type G (three rectangular pins in a triangular pattern)

this saw is from the 1980s green.
missing motor, fence rail system, and maybe other key parts all based on web search.

found the next lager one CL800 4kw motor sold for 650 euros. That one appeared to have all its parts fence rail motor all that stuff and running and no rust on it.

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I would compare new ones versus used ones for price range. Unless your mechanic and like to Tinker and repair your tools I do not believe this would be a good choice.

came across this just for reference it was only 700 euros

Band Saw with Stand Benchtop Bandsaw 9.65 in 370W Two-Speed Adjustable.

another

DeWalt Bandsaw DW876 listed in Northern Ireland Comber, County Down
asking price £300

If I were in your shoes I would do a lot more research.

Good luck on your endeavors to find a bandsaw.

 

Thank you for your detailed answer. I think you are right. I am able to fix minor stuff but don't want to get into that when it's about power tools....I know I have 10 fingers and I'd like to keep all of them. The search is on...I think I'll pass this one.

 

European three phase is just 230 volts on three different lines. You can power three phase on single phase power with a phase converter or a VFD. You don't have to have the utility company run power for you. You may have to get an electrician to wire the unit up for you.

 

@Steve Neul
he said the motor was gone so therefore three phases not the issue I think it's more about all the other work that needs to be done to it and the amount of parts that may be potentially missing obviously the fence rail system is definitely in the picture not there. Plus it's a saw from 40 years ago.


Also remember that he is at 230 volts 50 HZ for Ireland's power most three phase inverters they're available are twice the expense than they are here in the United States if we're making Motors much cheaper to buy.

Also he did not indicate whether he is just getting into woodworking or has been doing very very long time unless you're really good at mechanical things why would you want to buy a tool that requires doing a lot of work unless you are prepared for it and his comment that is not what he wants to do.

I for myself enjoy as much The Woodworking as I do taking older machinery and building it back up to a quality machine because I have the patience for it and mechanical skills to do so including any Machining work that may be necessary.

 

@Steve Neul
he said the motor was gone so therefore three phases not the issue I think it's more about all the other work that needs to be done to it and the amount of parts that may be potentially missing obviously the fence rail system is definitely in the picture not there. Plus it's a saw from 40 years ago.


Also remember that he is at 230 volts 50 HZ for Ireland's power most three phase inverters they're available are twice the expense than they are here in the United States if we're making Motors much cheaper to buy.

Also he did not indicate whether he is just getting into woodworking or has been doing very very long time unless you're really good at mechanical things why would you want to buy a tool that requires doing a lot of work unless you are prepared for it and his comment that is not what he wants to do.

I for myself enjoy as much The Woodworking as I do taking older machinery and building it back up to a quality machine because I have the patience for it and mechanical skills to do so including any Machining work that may be necessary.

I just brought up the three phase because he said he had been finding machines that ran on three phase and he didn't have the service. He said he was going to pass on this machine so he will be looking again.

 

One big warning;

When moving bandsaws,folks just naturally want to grab the table. It will break the trunnions faster than I just wrote this warning!

Therefore,one of the things to check is to look under the table at their (trunnion)condition. You should take the table off to move it.

 

@BWSmith

Unfortunately you're very correct in the statement that people do break them that way I have had the opportunity to look at a lot of estate sales or equipment for sale and usually discover that flaw when trying to tilt the table while in production and see how well it moves only to find out when closer on inspection it has been damaged because they used it for a handle but for the average person who's a novice at buying equipment it can be a very big letdown to find it when you get home but I think most of the time will you do reset the table of various angles and then try to wiggle it you'll notice as an issue after you tighten it back down.
I used to buy a lot of equipment used for the purpose of reselling it or repairing it for others that is a common defect I see I've also seen that down to table saws where people try to pick it up from the far edges and crack the table generally near the miter slots.

 

That sounds like a pretty fair deal, especially with the 2.2KW single-phase motor. A bit of TLC and paint is normal for used saws. When you check it out, look for smooth blade and table movement, any rattles, and the condition of bearings and guides. If it runs well and feels solid, it could be a good find. How much is it?

 

Seller wants 1000 euros for it. My biggest issue is that fence is missing + motor is not attached. Could be an easy thing to attach motor or could be a disaster....I tend to over-analyze things as has been burnt before with jumping on "flash-sale" offers. Some of them turned out to be flush-sale offers...if you know what I mean. (Wasted money). My inner demons are still fighting each other....

 

@Framingbird

If you enjoy woodworking starting out and you like to watch videos on woodworking here is a suggestion.
By the way he is over on your side of the pond.

Paul Sellers

Yes quite a few videos that show how to use hand tools but not exclusively been teaching woodworking a good part of his life. Paul Sellers.

Introducing the Bandsaw | Paul Sellers

 

I was going to mention the missing fence is a major factor if you plan on ripping or resawing. The motor would have to be installed ans I would have to see and hear it running. Maybe he can do that and send a video? Not being able to run the machine would be an automatic “no” for me. No way I would drive that far and not be able to do some test cuts. You have to do test cuts. I’ve found out the hard way a machine can look and sound good until it’s under load.

Sorry, but I would pass because it lacks a fence and is probably going to require bearing replacements, new tires, and who knows what else. I’be no knowledge about the saw but I’m not crazy about the guides, either. You could use these issues to bargain the price down where it’s more worth the chance.

I’d offer him half what he‘s asking and hope it turns it down 😉. Keep looking!

Have you seen any of the bandsaws people build? They work amazingly well. Check Marius Hornberger and Mattias Wandel.

 

Thanks for your reply, guy is firm on price and I appreciate your advice. I agree I should be able to try it out. He is too busy to fit motor (he sells jeeps, machinery etc, he just does not want to do it...). I'll keep looking, and will check out your recommended self-built machines.

 

I'm not familiar with the brand, and I'm not sure what the blade size is. The thing that is immediately obvious, though, is that it has definitely not been well cared for. That's not a good sign. The rust on the tabletop is not a big thing. That will clean up fairly easily, provided there's no deep pitting. The rust on the standard for the upper blade guide may be a more difficult fix, and looking at the fine adjustment screws for the blade guides, I would not be surprised to find those rusted and frozen solid.
I would strongly recommend that you check to see if parts for this particular model are relatively available. I do that anytime I'm buying a used tool. More than once I've purchased a major brand tool, assuming that parts would be available and wound up having to hunt all over and pay too much for them.
1,000 euros is a bit under $1,200 dollars, at least today. As BWSmith said, that's a bit over the going rate for a similar saw, used, in excellent shape over here. For comparison, Grizzly Industrial, a firm that does a lot of business here in the USA and has a generally good reputation, sells a new 17" {432mm) bandsaw, with a 2 hp (750kw) single-phase motor, already specifically set up for resawing up to 12" (305mm), for only about $250 more. I don't know what you'd pay in freight, import duties, and so on. Most of their tools are made on the Pacific Rim, but they maintain good quality control, unlike many who source their tools there. This one says it's made in an ISO 9001 factory, and in my experience they don't exaggerate those statements. It looks as if they have a branch that sells in the EU, Grizzly Tools | The product diversity of Grizzly Tools.

 

I'm not familiar with the brand, and I'm not sure what the blade size is. The thing that is immediately obvious, though, is that it has definitely not been well cared for. That's not a good sign. The rust on the tabletop is not a big thing. That will clean up fairly easily, provided there's no deep pitting. The rust on the standard for the upper blade guide may be a more difficult fix, and looking at the fine adjustment screws for the blade guides, I would not be surprised to find those rusted and frozen solid.
I would strongly recommend that you check to see if parts for this particular model are relatively available. I do that anytime I'm buying a used tool. More than once I've purchased a major brand tool, assuming that parts would be available and wound up having to hunt all over and pay too much for them.
1,000 euros is a bit under $1,200 dollars, at least today. As BWSmith said, that's a bit over the going rate for a similar saw, used, in excellent shape over here. For comparison, Grizzly Industrial, a firm that does a lot of business here in the USA and has a generally good reputation, sells a new 17" {432mm) bandsaw, with a 2 hp (750kw) single-phase motor, already specifically set up for resawing up to 12" (305mm), for only about $250 more. I don't know what you'd pay in freight, import duties, and so on. Most of their tools are made on the Pacific Rim, but they maintain good quality control, unlike many who source their tools there. This one says it's made in an ISO 9001 factory, and in my experience they don't exaggerate those statements. It looks as if they have a branch that sells in the EU, Grizzly Tools | The product diversity of Grizzly Tools.

Thanks for your reply, I can not justify to buy any machinery from the USA, as they'll charge me with a hefty import duty. I'll take a look around in Ireland, have to play the waiting and searching game now.

 

For example an ex school machine in a lot better condition.

 

https://ostiatools.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/Startrite-351E-Single-Speed-Vertical-Bandsaw-Instruction-Manual.pdf

 

14" single phase, had read good reviews on it. Just have to ask seller how much he wants for it.

 

Sorry for this,haha;

That country song by Kenny Rogers keeps popping up in my pea brain. "You gotta know when to hold'em,know when to fold'em" Bwahaha.

Sounds like you walked away,good. Seller possibly doesn't like country music,haha. Good luck on your machine quest,always fun.

 

That's funny.... The hunt is on, will find something, just have tobe patient. Lack of knowledge either meakes me dumb or cautios, I don't want to be dumb....so I walked away...thanks for all of your help making the right decision.

 

If I could wire up VFD I'd buy something like this. He wants 600 euros for it.