[Al B Thayer]

Anyone have trouble with Bosch Colt getting the bit centered? Its brand new.

Al

Nails only hold themselves.

 

[Al B Thayer]

I have 2 of them. The 2nd one I bought had a balance problem, shook a lot when running. I took it back and got a new one. Now I have 2 great little routers.

This is my second unit. I don't like the collet at all. Looking at it makes me wonder how the collet centers the bit at all. When I turned it on it almost vibrated out of my hand. PC never gave me this kind of problem.

Thanks for your response.

Al

Nails only hold themselves.

 

[Al B Thayer]

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OR one of these:
Trend T4EK 850-Watt 1.1-HP Variable-Speed Plunge-Base Router



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I have them both... great little routers.:thumbsup:

I picked up a Ridgid too just for the size and weight. It has some very nice features like a light, easy adjust. soft start, Veri speed, weighs almost nothing. Great on off switch. It's prolly a throw away but will serve the need at the time. If they made a smaller lighter cheaper one I would buy it.

The DeWalt is nice but it's too lose to the PC 690s I already have. Too heavy for all this edge banding.

Next router I buy will be a PC. Never had an issue with one yet and they run forever. But I will take a long look at them.

This pony is going to haul or they will get it back.

Al

Nails only hold themselves.

 

[Al B Thayer]

For anyone here that cares to further my query. Could you check your Colt to see if in fact it does hold your straight 1" trim bit centered? I don't have a problem with the router. I have a problem with the collet. It's twelve thousandths off center. This is my second Colt. I sent the first one back.

I've never heard of such a thing.

Al

Nails only hold themselves.

 

[Al B Thayer]

Off center from what?

Leo
Off center from the center. If I lay a scraper blade against the bearing and across the fence. As I rotate the bit with my finger. It raises and lowers the scraper. It wobbles like a cam shaft. Does it with a new bit too.

Al

Nails only hold themselves.

 

[Al B Thayer]

I hold myself occasionally...just saying' Especially when I hit the wrong nail. I just hold my finger and jump up and down....

Put a drill rod in the collet. Put a dial indicator on the base. Rotate the collet/arbor. What do you get?
Is your trusted straight bit no longer straight?
Further analysis is needed....
2 bad routers from Bosch sounds like a quality control issue at the factory. Send 'em back.

I put another bit in it. Same thing. Dial indicator shows 12 thou different. Going back to big blue box store in the morning.

I dare you to check that Triton.

Al

Nails only hold themselves.

 

[Al B Thayer]

I like Leo's question, off center from what? If from the edge of the square base, .012 may very well be in tolerance. The only time centering is considered critical is when using guide bushings and all the Bosch systems I've seen provide a means of centering the bushing and bit with the bushing adapter. Unless you have the plunge base, the Colt doesn't provide a factory bushing adapter mount. If you are using the base against a guide strip or something, it is like every other router, you need to maintain the orientation of the router to the guide surface. :yes:

The bit doesn't spin true. It cams.

Al

Nails only hold themselves.

 

[Al B Thayer]

The collet is not centered on the shaft, causing the vibration...unless I'm not understanding the issue. The reference can be the base to the collet holding a drill rod as I suggested.
Something is loose, or out of concentricity, on the arbor or shaft or collet. :yes:
The base need not be centered on the shaft, but that will cause issues other than vibration.

Right. I couldn't care less about the bit in relation to the base. The bit cams. Thump thump thump.

Al

Nails only hold themselves.

 

[Al B Thayer]

Mine is off centre from the base, but no run out that I'm aware off.
Being off centre from the base I would expect a bit, within reason.
Like the Colt regardless though.

You wouldn't like it if you had this problem. I think I'm going to like it. Not a problem with the base and the bit.

Al

Nails only hold themselves.

 

[Al B Thayer]

Off center collet or mechanism. Return it. I like the Colt. If you can't find a good one get a different brand. But I did have a similar problem and got another and it was fine. I didn't bother to see why it vibrated, it did and I didn't want it.

Right. The first router was dancing on the wood. I think the collet was cracked all the way through at one of the expansion slots causing it to off center as it was tightened.

I like the Colt too. Right size, right hp for the not so big edge details. I fail to understand why it requires 3 moves to remove it from the base. I understand the lock for micro but the other one is overkill.

Al

Nails only hold themselves.

 

[Al B Thayer]

Maybe there's a market for hand held vibrators......? Check the interweb.:yes:

I'm laughin. We all know there's a market for one.

Al

Nails only hold themselves.

 

[Al B Thayer]

Why do you remove it from the base? So, unhitch the latch, spin it until it clicks and then pull the base off the router. Takes a few seconds.

I remove all routers when changing bits or bases. I guess I'll get the hang of it but it's like no other router so....

Al

Nails only hold themselves.

 

[Al B Thayer]

I do know this however, wood movement is like a bowel movement, once it starts it's very difficult to stop....just sayin' :blink:
Since this thread has been well executed it's probably time to lighten up a bit. :yes:

Oh he'll yes!

Al

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[Al B Thayer]

He should just give it to his wife :laughing:

Are you implying I spend too much time in my shop?

Al

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[Al B Thayer]

Okay here are some pics. You all decide. This is the 3rd router.

Here we have the setting close to zero. The indicator is setting on the fence.

In this picture I have rotated the bit with my finger 1/2 turn. The bit turns more like a May pole than a top. 7 thou give or take a half thou.

What say you?

Al

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[Al B Thayer]

Now that I know what you mean, no, my Colt does not have that problem.

Did you check it?

Al

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[Al B Thayer]

A bent bit could give the same readouts and I've personally seen several long flush trim bits that vibrated badly no matter which router they were in. Try the bit in another outer if you have one. Or try another bit from a different manufacturer in the same router.

It could also be some debris in between the tapered grip and the tapered hole causing the assembly to not lock down in line with the shaft.

Precision Bits makes a much improved and far more precise collet for the Colts. They include emphasis on keeping that socket clean, and the tools you need to clean it with.

You must be in 4D mode. It's brand new still has the cord tied up never been plugged in. I have been using the bit in another router and the bit in the pic is brand new. I'll try it in the best router ever made. PC 690.

If I keep the Colt, which I doubt. I'll get a collet from Precision. Thanks

Al

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[Al B Thayer]

I would still try this just to be certain.

See above post Oby Juan. Their collet can't suck enough.

Al

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