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Anyone have trouble with Bosch Colt getting the bit centered? Its brand new.

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I have that router with no problem. I would take it back and compare side to side with another in the store
 

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I love my Bosch Colt - it's a very good machine. As a matter of fact, I won the PC 450C from ShopNotes :icon_smile: - a comparable router - but couldn't get rid of the Bosch Colt. Because the PC 450C is a combination pack (fixed and plunge), I decided to use that as a hand held trim router but since I liked the Colt sooooo much, I bought a small router table, mounted it on a portable stand and will keep the Colt. I think it's that good!
 

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I have 2 of them. The 2nd one I bought had a balance problem, shook a lot when running. I took it back and got a new one. Now I have 2 great little routers.
 

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Leo G said:
I have 2 of them. The 2nd one I bought had a balance problem, shook a lot when running. I took it back and got a new one. Now I have 2 great little routers.
This is my second unit. I don't like the collet at all. Looking at it makes me wonder how the collet centers the bit at all. When I turned it on it almost vibrated out of my hand. PC never gave me this kind of problem.

Thanks for your response.

Al

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sell that pony and get one of these

DEWALT DWP611PK 1.25 HP Max Torque Variable Speed Compact Router Combo Kit with LED's - Amazon.com


OR one of these:
Trend T4EK 850-Watt 1.1-HP Variable-Speed Plunge-Base Router


Introducing Trends T4EK is a light duty 1.1 HP plunge base router with electronic variable speed motor. This plunge router is ideal for inlaying, sign making, edge molding or any other light duty routing applications. A convenient spindle lock makes short work of bit changing. With the easily removable router base, the T4EK motor is perfect for any power carving enthusiast. Includes three collets (1/4, 6mm and 8mm), a clip-in dust spout, a 5/8 template guide bushing, edge guide and storage case. Specifications: Plunge stroke 0 - 1- 3/8" Power Input 1.1 hp, 850 Watt, 120V motor No load speeds 11500-32000 rpm Bit dia. max 1- 3/16" Collet diameters: 1/4", 6mm and 8mm Dust spout size 1- 3/8" Template Guide bushing diameter: 5/8" Tool weight: 6 lbs Shipping Weight: 7.7 lbs Includes: Collets: 1/4", 6mm and 8mm 1- 5/16" Clip-in dust spout 5/8" Euro Style Guide Bushing Adaptor plate for Screw-on Guide Bushings Edge Guide Storage Case One Year Warranty


http://www.ptreeusa.com/routers.htm

I have them both... great little routers.:thumbsup:
 
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woodnthings said:
Video Link: http://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-DWP611PK-Torque-Variable-Compact/dp/B0049ZFUK2/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1384535156&sr=8-1&keywords=dewalt+trim+router

OR one of these:
Trend T4EK 850-Watt 1.1-HP Variable-Speed Plunge-Base Router



Introducing Trends T4EK is a light duty 1.1 HP plunge base router with electronic variable speed motor. This plunge router is ideal for inlaying, sign making, edge molding or any other light duty routing applications. A convenient spindle lock makes short work of bit changing. With the easily removable router base, the T4EK motor is perfect for any power carving enthusiast. Includes three collets (1/4, 6mm and 8mm), a clip-in dust spout, a 5/8 template guide bushing, edge guide and storage case. Specifications: Plunge stroke 0 - 1- 3/8" Power Input 1.1 hp, 850 Watt, 120V motor No load speeds 11500-32000 rpm Bit dia. max 1- 3/16" Collet diameters: 1/4", 6mm and 8mm Dust spout size 1- 3/8" Template Guide bushing diameter: 5/8" Tool weight: 6 lbs Shipping Weight: 7.7 lbs Includes: Collets: 1/4", 6mm and 8mm 1- 5/16" Clip-in dust spout 5/8" Euro Style Guide Bushing Adaptor plate for Screw-on Guide Bushings Edge Guide Storage Case One Year Warranty

http://www.ptreeusa.com/routers.htm

I have them both... great little routers.:thumbsup:
I picked up a Ridgid too just for the size and weight. It has some very nice features like a light, easy adjust. soft start, Veri speed, weighs almost nothing. Great on off switch. It's prolly a throw away but will serve the need at the time. If they made a smaller lighter cheaper one I would buy it.

The DeWalt is nice but it's too lose to the PC 690s I already have. Too heavy for all this edge banding.

Next router I buy will be a PC. Never had an issue with one yet and they run forever. But I will take a long look at them.

This pony is going to haul or they will get it back.

Al

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For anyone here that cares to further my query. Could you check your Colt to see if in fact it does hold your straight 1" trim bit centered? I don't have a problem with the router. I have a problem with the collet. It's twelve thousandths off center. This is my second Colt. I sent the first one back.

I've never heard of such a thing.

Al

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Off center from what?
 

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what's your process?

For anyone here that cares to further my query. Could you check your Colt to see if in fact it does hold your straight 1" trim bit centered? I don't have a problem with the router. I have a problem with the collet. It's twelve thousandths off center. This is my second Colt. I sent the first one back.

I've never heard of such a thing.

Al

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I hold myself occasionally...just saying' Especially when I hit the wrong nail. I just hold my finger and jump up and down....

Put a drill rod in the collet. Put a dial indicator on the base. Rotate the collet/arbor. What do you get?
Is your trusted straight bit no longer straight?
Further analysis is needed....
2 bad routers from Bosch sounds like a quality control issue at the factory. Send 'em back.
 

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I like Leo's question, off center from what? If from the edge of the square base, .012 may very well be in tolerance. The only time centering is considered critical is when using guide bushings and all the Bosch systems I've seen provide a means of centering the bushing and bit with the bushing adapter. Unless you have the plunge base, the Colt doesn't provide a factory bushing adapter mount. If you are using the base against a guide strip or something, it is like every other router, you need to maintain the orientation of the router to the guide surface. :yes:
 

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vibration is the issue

This is my second unit. I don't like the collet at all. Looking at it makes me wonder how the collet centers the bit at all. When I turned it on it almost vibrated out of my hand. PC never gave me this kind of problem.

Thanks for your response.

Al

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The collet is not centered on the shaft, causing the vibration...unless I'm not understanding the issue. The reference can be the base to the collet holding a drill rod as I suggested.
Something is loose, or out of concentricity, on the arbor or shaft or collet. :yes:
The base need not be centered on the shaft, but that will cause issues other than vibration.
 

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Mine is off centre from the base, but no run out that I'm aware off.
Being off centre from the base I would expect a bit, within reason.
Like the Colt regardless though.
 

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OR one of these:
Trend T4EK 850-Watt 1.1-HP Variable-Speed Plunge-Base Router


Introducing Trends T4EK is a light duty 1.1 HP plunge base router with electronic variable speed motor. This plunge router is ideal for inlaying, sign making, edge molding or any other light duty routing applications. A convenient spindle lock makes short work of bit changing. With the easily removable router base, the T4EK motor is perfect for any power carving enthusiast. Includes three collets (1/4, 6mm and 8mm), a clip-in dust spout, a 5/8 template guide bushing, edge guide and storage case. Specifications: Plunge stroke 0 - 1- 3/8" Power Input 1.1 hp, 850 Watt, 120V motor No load speeds 11500-32000 rpm Bit dia. max 1- 3/16" Collet diameters: 1/4", 6mm and 8mm Dust spout size 1- 3/8" Template Guide bushing diameter: 5/8" Tool weight: 6 lbs Shipping Weight: 7.7 lbs Includes: Collets: 1/4", 6mm and 8mm 1- 5/16" Clip-in dust spout 5/8" Euro Style Guide Bushing Adaptor plate for Screw-on Guide Bushings Edge Guide Storage Case One Year Warranty


http://www.ptreeusa.com/routers.htm

I have them both... great little routers.:thumbsup:
Had one of those, not a bad little router but found the Colt, especially with the installer kit and a plunge base, to be much more flexible....and there fore more useful, albeit quite a bit more expensive with all the whiz bangs. I sold it to a lady that was wanting to get into sign making. Great little router for the money. :smile:
 

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Leo G said:
Off center from what?
Leo
Off center from the center. If I lay a scraper blade against the bearing and across the fence. As I rotate the bit with my finger. It raises and lowers the scraper. It wobbles like a cam shaft. Does it with a new bit too.

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woodnthings said:
I hold myself occasionally...just saying' Especially when I hit the wrong nail. I just hold my finger and jump up and down....

Put a drill rod in the collet. Put a dial indicator on the base. Rotate the collet/arbor. What do you get?
Is your trusted straight bit no longer straight?
Further analysis is needed....
2 bad routers from Bosch sounds like a quality control issue at the factory. Send 'em back.
I put another bit in it. Same thing. Dial indicator shows 12 thou different. Going back to big blue box store in the morning.

I dare you to check that Triton.

Al

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jschaben said:
I like Leo's question, off center from what? If from the edge of the square base, .012 may very well be in tolerance. The only time centering is considered critical is when using guide bushings and all the Bosch systems I've seen provide a means of centering the bushing and bit with the bushing adapter. Unless you have the plunge base, the Colt doesn't provide a factory bushing adapter mount. If you are using the base against a guide strip or something, it is like every other router, you need to maintain the orientation of the router to the guide surface. :yes:
The bit doesn't spin true. It cams.

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The collet is not centered on the shaft, causing the vibration...unless I'm not understanding the issue. The reference can be the base to the collet holding a drill rod as I suggested.
Something is loose, or out of concentricity, on the arbor or shaft or collet. :yes:
The base need not be centered on the shaft, but that will cause issues other than vibration.
Right. I couldn't care less about the bit in relation to the base. The bit cams. Thump thump thump.

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Mine is off centre from the base, but no run out that I'm aware off.
Being off centre from the base I would expect a bit, within reason.
Like the Colt regardless though.
You wouldn't like it if you had this problem. I think I'm going to like it. Not a problem with the base and the bit.

Al

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hmmmm

Right. I couldn't care less about the bit in relation to the base. The bit cams. Thump thump thump.
Maybe there's a market for hand held vibrators......? Check the interweb.:yes:
 
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