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Question of wood choice -outdoor project

Hi, First post here, glad I found this forum.
I've don't some simple woodwork in the past, but now that I'm retired I expect to take on more involved projects.
Right off the bat though, I have what I hope is a basic question. It's on material.
I would like to build a patio table/stand for my brother-in-laws "Large Green Egg" BBQ.
I've found a few designs on line and most look do-able with patience, but I'm stuck on the type and where to buy it.
Looking up the wood the authentic Green-Egg BBQ stands use, turns out it's eastern cedar. They then give it several coats of Urethane.
Problem is, All the cedar I find on line or at Lowes or Home Depot are 1/4" planks. I imagine those are for lining closets or chests.
I know redwood is a common outdoor wood as well, but it's quite soft and doesn't seen appropriate for this kind of project.
Is the another wood I should be looking into that is reasonably weather resistant?
Thanks for any advice!
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Attached is my initial plan - the BBQ sites into the hole on the left of top.
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Where do you live. That has a lot to do with the type of wood usually available locally.


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Where do you live. That has a lot to do with the type of wood usually available locally.


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I’m in the San Francisco bay area.
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Go to a real lumberyard, or a place like Woodcraft, or a millwork shop for a good lumber selection. Not sure what you have available in SF, but in NE Ohio we have quite a few choices. White oak is a very rot resistant wood and very strong to boot. I made some Adirondack chairs out of it. You could park a car on them. Cypress is another good outdoor wood, not sure if it's in your area, pretty common in the south.
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Go to a real lumberyard, or a place like Woodcraft, or a millwork shop for a good lumber selection. Not sure what you have available in SF, but in NE Ohio we have quite a few choices. White oak is a very rot resistant wood and very strong to boot. I made some Adirondack chairs out of it. You could park a car on them. Cypress is another good outdoor wood, not sure if it's in your area, pretty common in the south.
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Thank you. I know white oak is easily available.
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Cedar lined chests or closets use eastern red cedar. The trees are small, so the wood is very knotty. It is also very fragrant. The Green Egg stand is probably eastern white cedar (arbor vitae). It is very durable when exposed to weather. It's used for boat planking and canoes.
On the west coast you might have an easier time finding western cedars. Western red cedar would be excellent. It is easy to work, available in larger dimensions as the trees are quite large, and very durable.
White oak is also very durable when exposed to weather. It is much harder, stronger, and heavier than any of the cedars. It will be more of a challenge to work it.
Plans for projects like this are commonly made with softwood dimension lumber in mind. Using white oak as a substitute would be overkill structurally. Reducing the members to dimensions appropriate for the working characteristics of white oak may not give you the look you have in mind.
Redwood heartwood is very durable, but the light colored sapwood is not. When only old growth trees were being cut, it was all heartwood; but that isn't always the case anymore.
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Iím in the San Francisco bay area.

Many, many years ago I lived 40 miles South of SF in San Jose. In those days redwood was plentiful and relatively cheap. I am sure that has changed. But it would be my choice if still available within reasonable cost. I built a deck out of it.


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Thanks for the very useful info JohnGi - I think I’ll go ahead with the Western Red Cedar. It is widely available too.
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One issue with redwood is that it is relatively soft. It dents easily and the dents. This might be a concern with a BBQ table.
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My choice for a BBQ table would be white oak as well. Probably cost a bit more than redwood, but like wildplum mention redwood is a soft wood and susceptible to dings and dents, not something i personally would want for a fairly heavy use table. Oak is a lot more durable, and stronger for that matter

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White oak is a fairly bullet proof wood.
Better have some sharp tools.
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