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Help designing raised panels

Hello all, this is my first attempt at building anything such as cabinets/furniture. I am building a media cabinet to hold my receiver, blu ray player, movies and such. I have the outer piece built. It will be 6'8" and 2 feet wide and 2 feet deep.

I am making it out of oak plywood and will be putting the trim on soon. This might be where I can stop building and will look pretty good for my first build.

But, I want to try building some doors for it. I thought raised panels doors would look really nice.

I was looking at oak boards, but they are expensive. So is there something cheaper that I can use that will match up to oak casing that I built?

Please feel free to ask questions, this is my first build and really a novice at this. But having fun!
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Hello all, this is my first attempt at building anything such as cabinets/furniture. I am building a media cabinet to hold my receiver, blu ray player, movies and such. I have the outer piece built. It will be 6'8" and 2 feet wide and 2 feet deep.

I am making it out of oak plywood and will be putting the trim on soon. This might be where I can stop building and will look pretty good for my first build.

But, I want to try building some doors for it. I thought raised panels doors would look really nice.

I was looking at oak boards, but they are expensive. So is there something cheaper that I can use that will match up to oak casing that I built?

Please feel free to ask questions, this is my first build and really a novice at this. But having fun!
If your media components are going to be behind the doors - Solid wood may not be so good if trying to use a remote control 'through' the closed doors...

You could however do some glass doors in oak frames that would match nicely. The glass may (or may not) be cheaper than the oak for the panels as well depending on what kind you went with... Glass wont hider a remote and could also be tinted if one wanted to hide things somewhat.

Best of luck with your project.
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Thanks for the reply, this cabinet is in another room. I have a RF repeater that will transfer the signal. Glass door is a thought, but for some reason I want to try to build doors for it:)
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I have some door like these

You will still need a frame for the door whether it holds glass or panels. My cabinet doors hide my audio equipment behind tinted glass:


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You could use ash instead of oak, it can be stained to look a lot like oak and sometimes it is hard to tell the difference. If you are buying lumber from the big box stores, they are really high on their lumber, try a cabinet supply or real lumber company in your area. Ask for FAS when pricing out your lumber.

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thanks for the image woodnthings. Gave me some ideas that I will need to draw out and price out.

Thanks bigjim, i'll have to look into Ash. I would of just guess cabinet stores would be more expensive than big box stores.

What is FAS pricing?
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thanks for the image woodnthings. Gave me some ideas that I will need to draw out and price out.

Thanks bigjim, i'll have to look into Ash. I would of just guess cabinet stores would be more expensive than big box stores.

What is FAS pricing?
You don't want to go to a cabinet store for lumber, you need to go to a cabinet supplier, they sell lumber and materials to cabinet shops.

FAS is a grade of lumber used in cabinets and furniture, check out this link, it will explain a lot better:
http://www.mgsawmill.com/grade_chart.htm

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Building raised panel doors can be intimidating to say the least. Search you tube for how to videos.

I used a router bit set to cut the profile in the rails and stiles. A raised panel cutter was used to cut the panels. I made several passes and adjusted the router table fence each time until I got the final size and shape. It helps to practice.

Freud Precision Router Bit Set

Freud Quadra Cut Raised Panel Bit

Note that the cutter is 3 1/2 inches in diameter. The first time I used it, I mounted it in a Bosch 1617 router. It worked OK but more power would have been nice. By the next set of cabinet doors, I had purchased a Triton 3 1/4 hp router. That thing just loafs along making those cuts.

Make sure your router table opening is big enough for the cutter to fit through. I use Kreg insert plates for both routers and the cutter just barely clears, which is just fine.

Here are a couple of pics of some doors I built with the above mentioned router bits.
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If your media components are going to be behind the doors - Solid wood may not be so good if trying to use a remote control 'through' the closed doors...

You could however do some glass doors in oak frames that would match nicely. The glass may (or may not) be cheaper than the oak for the panels as well depending on what kind you went with... Glass wont hider a remote and could also be tinted if one wanted to hide things somewhat.

Best of luck with your project.
There are remotes sold for just this purpose. I bought one 30 years ago and it works fine. It is just a repeater.

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There are remotes sold for just this purpose. I bought one 30 years ago and it works fine. It is just a repeater.

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My advice was intended to save this guy some money as he was complaining about the price of the materials.

Glass is often cheaper than a wood panel so long as it is not tempered or otherwise 'special' and this also eliminates the need for a repeater and the cost associated with it.
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You could use ash instead of oak, it can be stained to look a lot like oak and sometimes it is hard to tell the difference..

A professional could pull that off but this guy is a newbie to woodworking.

Would be a different story if the entire project was built out of Ash to begin with as everything would likely 'match' then even if done by a newbie.
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Raised panel doors

you can make a basic raised panel door with only a table saw.
If you only have two small doors to make, you will just need to prepare two panels and use a sharp blade.
Attach an auxiliary fence to your existing fence that will stand up 8" from top of the table saw. This will give you something to run your panels against to keep them 90 degrees.
Adjust your saw angle to about 11 degrees off 90.
Cut your two ends first. Then cut the two sides of each panel.
You want to leave the edges of the panel at just over 3/16".
Be prepared to do some sanding.
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I didn't think I was complaining about money. I called the lumber store in my town and it was 25 bucks for 1x4 8 feet.

I called the lumber store that is further away in a bigger city..100K vs 6K people and it was only like 14 bucks for the same. Now that is sounding more reasonable.
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IR repeaters and remote extenders are quite reasonable, far more reasonable than glass panels especially if that is what the OP I looking for.
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I didn't think I was complaining about money. I called the lumber store in my town and it was 25 bucks for 1x4 8 feet.

I called the lumber store that is further away in a bigger city..100K vs 6K people and it was only like 14 bucks for the same. Now that is sounding more reasonable.
That's $5.25 a board foot. A bit pricey but you are paying for the quality of the lumber, and machining.

Building a raised panel door requires some specialized tools, and cutters. Unless you happen to have them already(you probably wouldn't be looking at 1x4 material if you did) then you might consider design alternatives that might be easier to accomplish on your first build.

Flush doors out of the same ply you made the case out of.

Solid wood doors glued up.

Frame doors with a flat(ply) panel.

Frame doors with glass or decorative metal inserts.

ETC...

I have seen raised panels in large mill jobs that the center "panel" is plywood, wrapped with a tapered "molding" if you will that gives the appearance of a raised panel. Still pretty advanced to mill the lumber, and cut 4 miters.

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You could do flat panel shaker doors, that's what most people want now anyways and just use 1/4 ply for your panels. Then spend your time and concentration on the cope and stick frame
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You could do flat panel shaker doors, that's what most people want now anyways and just use 1/4 ply for your panels. Then spend your time and concentration on the cope and stick frame
I know the topic is "raised panel doors", but if that's not an absolute you can easily make flat panel doors and leave them flat OR add a decorative molding that would make a raised panel effect.

Here a router table project I did for a friend:
http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/f7/ro...project-23855/

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