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Chad Portman 05-12-2016 08:34 PM

First Project Ever!! Gaming Table
 
I have chosen to make my first project ever but would like so advice. I am trying to build a gaming table for the house. I will try to explain the idea as best I can.

So this table is going to be used for playing really large board games(not monoply, things like Arkham Horror and Firefly) so it will be quite large.

My ideas(fully willing to change any part as need) are as follows:
  1. The playing area of the table will be recessed in similar to a Craps table.
  2. I would like the playing area of the table to be an 8 ft X 4 ft Plywood base covered in felt.
  3. I was thinking of using 4 X 4 around the edges with a slit cut in to slide the already felted Plywood into.
  4. On top of the 4x4 area I was going to use 1 x 6 to create a ledge to hold things like food, cards, etc.
  5. With the size and weight of the items above the legs are a big concern for me.
  6. I want the legs to be detachable. Even if that means a few screws. Just will make moving it if ever needed way easier.
  7. The first idea I had for the legs is to place them about a foot for both edges at each corner using a 1 x 4 for a skirt. Then in the middle running a couple 1 x 4 across the table between the skirt to have a 5th leg dead center.
  8. I was thinking of using threaded inserts to attach the legs.
  9. As for what to make the legs out of I was thinking more 4 x 4.

I have been asking family for their thoughts and I have gotten the feedback that a lot of chairs are built using the threaded inserts to hold legs on and they always come loose. Not sure how to address that or if there is a better way to do the legs.

Anyways if you need further explanation let me know. Any ideas you have are greatly appreciated.

jspadaro 05-13-2016 04:19 PM

Wow, that's a big table. It'll weigh a metric ton with all that 4x4, also. But maybe you're OK with that.

FWIW, the "slit" cut in the 4x4 is a dado or a rabbet depending on whether it's in the middle of the piece or on the edge, just some woodworking terminology.

Maybe I don't understand your design, but I'm picturing a piece of plywood with 4x4 basically trimmed around it like a picture frame. In that case, I would probably just put 4 legs, maybe 6 if necessary, inside of the 4x4 and attach it to the 4x4.

For doing this, a threaded insert would be fine, albeit they typically come in relatively small sizes. Not trying to offend, but if you're using 4x4, it's probably not going to be fine furniture - might be easier to simply drill a hole completely through and use a bolt with large-ish washers. If you do this, you can also use a lock washer to prevent it from backing out. Easy peasy.

Chad Portman 05-14-2016 08:57 AM

First of all thank you for taking the time to reply. Yes it is going to be a very big table but it needs to be in order to accommodate the games we play.

I had figured it would weigh a lot because of the 4 x 4 but I was unsure of any other material that could do the same thing while being lighter. If you have an idea for this please let me know.

Thanks for the terminology tip. I am assuming the dado is if in the middle and the rabbet is on the edge? If so I was going for a dado style.

I had not thought of it as a picture frame but that is very accurate. And no this was designed to be fine furniture just a functional first project.

Closest parts to aesthetics is the felt on the table(also functional). I had also planned on staining all the wood and doing some routing on the edges so it is smoother and not just sharp edges.

The bolt and washer all the way through is a good idea. What size bolt would you suggest to be able to go through both 4 x 4 and how much space will i need to leave on the bottom part of the dado(assuming I was right earlier) to leave room for the bolt to go through?

woodchux 05-14-2016 09:33 AM

That is indeed a very large table, and my first thought was the individuals/players reach to the center of the gaming surface, the second thought was storage of the entire unit. Consider perhaps designing the framed gaming table surface being a separate unit and have legs on lockable casters for the bottom base, which could also be used as a large dinning/buffet table. What ever design you choose, keep us posted as to the progress. Be safe.

jspadaro 05-14-2016 09:45 AM

[quote=Chad Portman;1376234]First of all thank you for taking the time to reply. Yes it is going to be a very big table but it needs to be in order to accommodate the games we play.
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No problem. For the record, I wasn't knocking it, just surprised. :thumbsup:

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I had figured it would weigh a lot because of the 4 x 4 but I was unsure of any other material that could do the same thing while being lighter. If you have an idea for this please let me know.
Pine is cheap and fairly light for what it is, so no, I agree with the choice. I'd try to find non-pressure-treated 4x4 though if possible.

I also wonder if you couldn't get away with 2x4 for the frame around the table surface rather than 4x4. You'd cut the weight in half, but I don't think I totally understand the rest of your design.

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Thanks for the terminology tip. I am assuming the dado is if in the middle and the rabbet is on the edge? If so I was going for a dado style.
Yep, that's correct.

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I had not thought of it as a picture frame but that is very accurate. And no this was designed to be fine furniture just a functional first project.

Closest parts to aesthetics is the felt on the table(also functional). I had also planned on staining all the wood and doing some routing on the edges so it is smoother and not just sharp edges.

The bolt and washer all the way through is a good idea. What size bolt would you suggest to be able to go through both 4 x 4 and how much space will i need to leave on the bottom part of the dado(assuming I was right earlier) to leave room for the bolt to go through?
Truthfully, with a project like this, I would tend to just build the thing, and then as a final step run to the store and grab bolts. That way I could measure exactly how long they need to be, and drill the holes based on the bolts I buy.

Not sure what else to recommend on that front, though, since I'm not sure I'm imagining your design correctly. A sketch or diagram would probably help


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