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post #1 of 4 Old 03-01-2020, 10:35 AM Thread Starter
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Dream Shop build...Finally!

While in my late 20's, I built my dream shop/garage. It was 28x36 and I never even got to fill it with tools before I sold the property 6 months later. One marriage, 2 kids, 2 dogs, and 4 houses later, I finally have the space and money to build my dream shop again. Over those 15 years, I've collected a really nice collection of tools. Like the majority of people, it shares space in our garage with cars, junk, and the worst offender of all...kids stuff.

My building will be 24x48 with a 6x30 wing coming off the side. The 24x48 piece will have 14 foot ceilings with the 6' bump out only having a 10ft ceiling. My plan is to have the back half of the building be the shop and the front half be for storing my tractor, utility trailer, and maybe a pickup someday. I've redesigned this building so many times, my wife rolls her eyes when I bring up a new idea. To keep the cost down, I have thought about keeping the ceiling 10' throughout. In my neighborhood, everyone wants a camper building so I decided to do a 14' ceiling just in case I sell someday. I have designed buildings with a bonus room in the attic, and buildings that are attached to the house allowing me to jump up to 1800 sqft. It all comes down to money and the design I have finally settled on gives me the best bang for the buck.

So why am I wasting all your time with my drivel? I need advice.

I'm struggling with a couple of items that I should figure out before pouring concrete or framing the roof.
1. Would you give up garage/shop space to install a bathroom?
The house is not far away, but I would have to walk through it to get to a bathroom. I honestly don't want to give up space to a restroom, but I cannot change my mind once its built.
2. Would you put up a wall between the shop and garage storage?
3. If I add vaulted rafters, I could put some storage above the shop. This would put a 10í ceiling throughout the shop area. Has anyone wished they had a higher ceiling than 10 ft.?
4. Finally, I keep going back and forth on the width of the shop. If I divide the 48 length in half, it leaves 24x30 shop with a 24x24 garage at the front. I feel I should make the garage deeper so I am thinking a 20x30 shop with a 24Wx28í deep garage. While 20x30 feels like a large shop, it will fill up fast once I add a few more tools or a bathroom.

Let me know what you guys think. I would love to hear ideas for items that I havenít mentioned. One final note. I plan on installing a Mini Split some day for heating and cooling. I looked into in-floor heat and the cost outweighed the benefits. I live in the front range of Colorado. It doesnít stay cold long enough for a system like that.

I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
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post #2 of 4 Old 03-02-2020, 11:06 AM
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1) Yes. If I were building my dream shop, it would have a restroom that included a toilet and an industrial sink.

2) Yes. If you don't separate the functions of the two spaces (shop/storage) then you're always going to have one overflowing into the other. Plus, wall space is premium in any shop because you have more storage options by adding cabinets/shelves/hooks/etc.

3) I'd lean towards 12ft in a "money is no object dream shop", but that's just extra space you have to heat in the cold winters. That's a tough call and one I would have to consider when it came to additional building costs, plus heating and cooling the space.

4) Ditto on this one. I'd need some real numbers in front of me for building costs to see if the trade off is worth it.

On a side note, I would absolutely use radiant floor heat in my dream shop. Then again, temps where I live can easily stay in the 30's for several weeks, and often dips down into the teens and single digits. This cold winter has mostly kept me out of my garage, and it sucks. I've been in a shop with radiant floor heat and it's so comfy - definitely the gold standard, but it is costly.

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I have built two custom shops in my career. to have separate
spaces for a bathroom and office are well worth the effort.
(if you did not have a bathroom in the shop, where would you go ??).
a deep sink with hot and cold water in the work area is a must.
10 foot ceilings suit me. I very rarely had to swing boards longer than 8' vertically.
I work on things like cars and boats. so a big door is essential to my hobbies.
I found a wood burning fireplace insert and all the pipe on C/L for $75.
a builder friend of mine installed it for $100 and some free magnetic signs.

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all the best !!
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Bathroom and sink wouldn't take up that much space and I think would be well worth it. You don't wanna work in the shop only to have the wife yell at you when you come in the house to use the good hand towels.

I'm also quite jealous.
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