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post #1 of 9 Old 08-19-2019, 09:08 PM Thread Starter
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Bench question

Planning to build this bench out of ash or maple and I've got two questions :

first, does ash play well with handplanes, is it prone to tear out more than other woods ? Next, what would be the best way to join the top to the legs ? I was thinking big dowels ?
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post #2 of 9 Old 08-19-2019, 09:47 PM
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Depends on the grain direction .....

As with any wood, grain direction the major determinant of tearout, so choose your planks carefully. Dowels are certainly a proven method of joinery, BUT a dado will add so much more strength than dowels alone.



A beautiful and strong joint would be a wedged tenon that shows from the top with a Walnut wedge driven in precut slots as shown in this video:
https://youtu.be/cBPxhIjJy7o?t=199



The answer to your question will only be as detailed and specific as the question is detailed and specific. Good questions also include a sketch or a photo that illustrates your issue. (:< D)
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That trick won't be easily doable with my design. Would this technique works instead :

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If your plane is sufficiently sharp and you take the job slow and easy, you can probably plane any wood with minimal tearout.


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post #5 of 9 Old 08-20-2019, 05:20 PM
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Not as well .....

This is actually what I had in mind;



The answer to your question will only be as detailed and specific as the question is detailed and specific. Good questions also include a sketch or a photo that illustrates your issue. (:< D)
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Dowels will be fine as the grain in top and ends is running in same direction so wood movement should not be a factor.

Most important thing is to have good solid joints in the stringer running between the ends to help prevent racking. Can't tell from the photo you show if there is a tusk in the tenon, would be a good idea to add one.

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Ash is probably somewhere between oak and hickory. Hard, dense, straight/coarse grained. Hand planing is not much of an issue, just recognize that the wood is hard and could be prone to tear-out if you go against the grain.

As far as joining the legs to the top, I would use a mortise and tenon. Probably 2 mortises, depending on width. You'd be hard pressed to find a stronger joint for that application.

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Question #2... cut a 3/4 inch brittle joint on top of the legs and join the legs with a length of wood (your discretion). This wood should be even with the top of your legs and your top bottom glued to the top of this wood along it's length. Because the top is only glued in the center along it's length for 3/4 inch or 1 1/2 (if you chose), wood movement is not an issue

Its' never hot or cold in New Hampshire... its' always seasonal.
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Just noticed FrankC's response... my option gives you a secure top and a double stringer!

Its' never hot or cold in New Hampshire... its' always seasonal.
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