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post #1 of 12 Old 12-03-2019, 09:48 AM Thread Starter
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Staircase Renovation

I'm looking to renovate our staircase (pictures below) and replacing the wooden rails with glass panels, then installing a wooden handrail on top. I'd have to keep the newel posts (which I believe are Parana pine currently with a polyurethane varnish) and then use off-the-shelf handrails from a choice of Pine or Oak. I'm concerned about the difference between appearance of the Parana pine and the new handrail though. I'd rather keep a wood appearance if possible, preferably a fairly modern darker shade rather than simply painting. I'm looking for some advice on how best to finish this and what I should be looking at. I'm not hugely experienced at working with wood so looking for some simple finish that even I might be able to manage to get a nice appearance here!

Thanks in advance for your help and any pointers in the right direction!

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My experience is that if you want good results, you will have to go through a "longer" process. Although I don't know how necessary it will be for handrail, as smaller mistakes will not be as visible, because of its smaller size.

I would probably look up a pine staining guide, there should be some useful ones out there on the internet.
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Thanks! If I do manage to stain it to a colour that I feel works then what sort of modern hardwearing finish should I go for on top? A polyurethane coat on top? Was hoping for something a little less glossy. Again, I'm a novice here so not sure what is easy, what is possible and what is best :-)

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post #4 of 12 Old 12-04-2019, 09:22 AM
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Felix-J and Jong,
a hearty welcome to both of you to the forum.
please share what part of the world you live in and
update your profile with your location that shows in
the left side panel. different techniques and finishes vary
in different parts of the country. what may be available in one part
of the world will not work in another.
there are a lot of talented craftsmen here that can guide you
through a variety of projects.

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That should be a very nice looking, though expensive renovation. Tempered glass is not cheap.


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Hoping it will make the hallway lighter! I costed it up and I found the glass cheaper than I thought it'd be. The labour cost was the killer in the price so figured I'd give it a shot myself. How hard can it be?!?
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So........ the only new wood with be the handrail.?
Are you spraying.?


If not, brushes, good old (dewax) shellac and Varnish or Poly would be fine.


The typical stair, handrail is fairly narrow and not too Complex/Carved/Detailed.
Once you have it sealed, you might find that some of the rattle cans of clear have a surprisingly nice spray tip on them.
You could buy a can and see what you think....... Good Luck :-)
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Yes, the only new wood is the handrail which isn't too detailed, but I'm going to sand the newel posts back down to bare wood and experiment with offcuts to try to get a nice appearance and match between to the two wood types. I've got some wood dye that I've had good results from previously but this being a bigger project keen to try to do it right.



Not sprayed before. Is it okay to use some sort of stain first then apply a spray after?

So (and once again please excuse my lack of knowledge and experience!) would the order of the steps then be: Sand newel posts, stain, seal (shellac), spray (poly)?
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Basically, yes. :)


Get it ready for stain....stain it, let dry, seal it somehow, and then apply some type of clear with brush or by spray.
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Thanks for the advice. I'll give it a go and report back how I get on! Going to be at a couple of months though before I'll have time to take this on.
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My only concern would be someone falling through the glass.

A diamond is how coal reacts under pressure.
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I'm going to be using handrails and baserails specifically manufactured for use on glass staircases with pre-cut grooves for the glass so these should be suitable. The glass will be 10mm thick safety glass which is higher spec than the required 8mm so that should note be a concern. Also no gaps greater than 100mm. I'm following UK building regulations here. Definitely good to think about safety though!
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