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post #21 of 24 Old 12-14-2009, 08:23 AM Thread Starter
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I am still working on my first pot of coffee and almost have the cobwebs cleared from my brain. I appreciate all of the help. This mornings assignment for me is two-fold. 1) Call HF tech support and find out exactly why I cant spray a flamable substance through it. It may be as simple as a fire hazard liability. 2) Call ML Campbell tech support and find out exactly what the meaning of "Color: 0-2GH Hazy" means to me in reference to their Level Sealer and what is the recommended top coat.
Also sched for 11AM this morning is a salesman and the store manager for Sherwin Williams will be coming to my shop for a meeting. They want to introduce themselves and sell me what they can. Life can be interesting.
Rick, thanks for steering me in the right direction and I will keep you informed of the outcome.

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As long as you have the SW guys coming over, ask them about conversion varnish.






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I have a 12' Parsons table that I have to spray high gloss white next week. I'll spray the Evercoat Slick Sand polyester primer and the white 2k urethane with a Sata gravity cup and then clear coat with the Kremlin 1014 using Milesi clear gloss 2k urethane.

Have you tried DuPont Imron? Works pretty good for solid colors. Or, maybe a polyester lacquer. Both don't need much build for a fine high gloss finish.






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1) Called HF tech support and found out exactly why I cant spray a flamable substance through it. Because the pump is not rated for chemical solvents like lacquer thinner or acetone. This is mainly for use with waterborne chemicals. Gee, HF never said so on the labels. I noticed that by reading the manual. This ain't the first time HF did that.
2) Call ML Campbell tech support and find out exactly what the meaning of "Color: 0-2GH Hazy" means to me in reference to their Level Sealer and what is the recommended top coat. The color referred to is the actual color of the chemical in the can. When mised it becomes clear. Mystery solved. The recommended top coat for this product is any form of lacquer whether nitro , pre -cat or post cat. For table tops, post catalyzed will be best.
11AM this morning a salesman and the store manager for Sherwin Williams came to my shop for a meeting. They introduced themselves and we talked finishes. SW can get me most of the chemicals I am using now and they are closer than my other supplier ( 5 minutes vs. 45 minutes) and they both deliver.
SW can even get me crackle lacquer when I showed them some sample panels I made. It turns out that SW owns ML Campbell - live and loin.
They also brought me some PDS's for polyester finishes. We also discussed the euro finishes. I really impressed with European finishes although very expensive they could still be cost efective. I was also depressed about American finishes being so far behind in technology. You can buy 2 component polyurethanes that are super hard, resist most chemicals and will lay down to a mirror finish with no sanding or buffing - made in Italy.

Cabinetman writes: As long as you have the SW guys coming over, ask them about conversion varnish.
Conversion Varnish is an excellent product, far superior to post catalyzed lacquer. The max. allowable build is pretty much the same as lacquer - 5 mils total system.

I think my immediate future plans will be to continue with lacquer on restoration projects using post cat. on the tops and nitro on the rest of the piece.
For mirror finishes I will start with the ML Campbell Level Sealer and post cat. for the final coat.
On new furniture I build I will probably go with a conversion varnish the whole trip. At least that is my current plan. I still have to use up a drum or so of pre-cat.


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