Any opinion on cabots sanding sealer - Woodworking Talk - Woodworkers Forum
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 5 Old 09-11-2015, 07:21 PM Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: outside nyc
Posts: 25
View FISHEAD's Photo Album My Photos
Any opinion on cabots sanding sealer

hi
I am in the process of working with some red oak that i milled 2 years ago and plan to use for treads and rises on a set of stairs.
they have been planed and then sanded to 240 grit.
they are 1 inch treads and 3/4 inch rises.
i want to use a sanding sealer before applying a oil based fast drying poly.
I plan on using 2-3 coats of gloss over the sealer and then finish off with 1-3 coats of semi gloss as topcoat.
is the cabot sealer a good choice?
do you scuff sand between coats?
I am not using any stain and am thinking of sealing
both sides of the wood.
am I MISSING ANYTHING?
THNX in advance
FISHEAD is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 5 Old 09-12-2015, 12:41 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 25,995
View Steve Neul's Photo Album My Photos
If they haven't been sanded recently you might give it another sanding.

For what you are doing you would be better off using an actual floor finish. They would dry harder for that application. I haven't used the cabot sealer. From what I see on the net they make three so I don't know which one you are using. Anyway with a fast dry poly you have to be careful what sealer you use. Sometimes the solvents in a fast dry finish are too hot for the sealer. Unless someone has used these products I would recommend you try the sealer and finish on a piece of scrap wood and try it out before using it on your project.
Steve Neul is offline  
post #3 of 5 Old 09-12-2015, 09:20 AM Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: outside nyc
Posts: 25
View FISHEAD's Photo Album My Photos
hi
thnx for reply.a for sanding again,I did resand everything and used an old air
straight line sander,I just bought and then went over with my 11 in dynabrade air rotary
sander with 180 grit and then 240 grit..Both tools I really found very useful.
It is the Cabot Quick Dry Sanding Sealer oil based sold at Lowes.
I could not read the back of can and decided to call Cabots and
was told she didnt recommend it for floor application.
this was due to movement in floor/tread..
how much can a 9 1/2 by 33 in tread that glued and screwed really move?
now i am looking for a different product.
BTW I did apply it before hearing this and i really like the results,put a 1st coat of poly over it and nice but I wont chance it not holding up over time.
FISHEAD is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 5 Old 09-12-2015, 09:40 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 25,995
View Steve Neul's Photo Album My Photos
Quote:
Originally Posted by FISHEAD View Post
hi
thnx for reply.a for sanding again,I did resand everything and used an old air
straight line sander,I just bought and then went over with my 11 in dynabrade air rotary
sander with 180 grit and then 240 grit..Both tools I really found very useful.
It is the Cabot Quick Dry Sanding Sealer oil based sold at Lowes.
I could not read the back of can and decided to call Cabots and
was told she didnt recommend it for floor application.
this was due to movement in floor/tread..
how much can a 9 1/2 by 33 in tread that glued and screwed really move?
now i am looking for a different product.
BTW I did apply it before hearing this and i really like the results,put a 1st coat of poly over it and nice but I wont chance it not holding up over time.
It sounds like you got hold of someone that didn't know what they were talking about. The only issue with the cabot finish is the hardness and durability of it used on a floor. There wouldn't be enough wood movement in that application to affect the finish. My only concern was whether the solvents in the fast dry poly would wrinkle up the sanding sealer when you apply it over the top. Since the one you are using is the fast dry sealer they are probably compatible. Still if you are going to use that finish I would apply the topcoat within a day of applying a sealer. Some of these type finishes have a recoat window. It's like some rattle can paint where it says put all the coats on within an hour or wait seven days.

I think you would be better off getting a finish made for a floor. It will just last a lot longer so you shouldn't ever have to get into an issue of stripping and refinishing the stairway. Just keep an eye on the finish if it appears to start wearing thin add a fresh coat of finish over the top.
Steve Neul is offline  
post #5 of 5 Old 09-12-2015, 12:19 PM Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: outside nyc
Posts: 25
View FISHEAD's Photo Album My Photos
I gotta say the more i thought i understood and researched both on finish and using red oak"some online despise using it and others love it.
I milled this because they were 28 inch old growth trees,straight and
they all fell during hurricane IRENE,just pulled from the ground
like toy soldiers.On the use of poly over stairs I read a lot of guys like it.
They use the gloss for strength and finish with semi for a smoother look.
I honestly like the look so far and will build layers like i do with
shellac and lacquer.All the pieces I m using are quarter sawn and have
nice ray fleck/s.
FISHEAD is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Woodworking Talk - Woodworkers Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Sanding swirl marks from 5" DA sander ponch37300 General Woodworking Discussion 33 05-23-2016 10:02 AM
Shopsmith 5" ROS sanding pads Rileysan Tool Reviews 2 08-07-2015 01:56 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome