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Pecan you craaazy

So Im teaching the lady to turn and she wanted something light and creamy to work on. I suggested maple but she said NO you always turn maple! So we went with Pecan which I had never turned. The outside went well rounded it out nicely sharpened the tools etc. Then we got to the inside. Got the tools as sharp as possible and went to work. GOOD NIGHT NURSE pecan HATES endgrain turning. I mean with all other woods I have encountered the endgrain can be bad sometimes but Ive never seen anything quite like this. Even with the sharpest tools I could muster and more than ample pressure it still comes out as powdered dust and takes forever to turn the en. Has anyone ever turned pecan before? Is this normal? what could be going on here that is making it so difficult. Any help would be greatly appreciated! happy turnin all,
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post #2 of 10 Old 02-11-2012, 06:23 PM
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I've a pantload of pecan in the yard and periodically turn some...
I've found when wet, it's a dream...

When dry, the sapwood is a real pain, but the heartwood, while HARD, seems to turn nicely...

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I normally drill a hole in end grain with spindle gouge or drill bit when end grain turning and always get shavings hollowing out with a gouge or scrapper. Only wood that gives me combination of dust and shavings is spalted wood.

Pretty much use same method Richard Raffan teaches in his books and videos.
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hmmm. Ive gotta get a sharpening rest/ system. Hand sharpening may not be good enough. this stuff is wet but not that wet but still its just like pure dust even when its sharp (by my standards). Will give it another shot tomorrow. Also, maybe its not pecan paulie mine has nowhere near the amount of color yours does its almost white with no brown or pink. But mine does have some of those odd brown flecs. I would call them bark inclusions if they didnt appear to be so uniform in size shape and rotation around the pith. Anybody know what those are? hmmmm might have to resharpen a time or two see if I cant figure this out. As always any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Happy turnin,
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Bond, get yourself the wolverine jig with varigrind. Only thing you'll regret is waiting so long to get it.

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I agree with sawdust, it will serve you well to get the wolverine and follow the setup instructions.

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lol its just a money thing gotta save for one thing at a time sharpening system is next for sure. Odd thing is it hasnt been that big of an issue till this pecan. All the pieces that ive done thus far have been from hand sharpened tools. No doubt a jig or two is on my list just gotta save to get there:) Thanks for advice though. Will have to give em the gentle thoughtful sharpen tomorrow and see if it changes... keep yall posted, happy turnin,
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I agree with Wildwood, drill the center out and hollow from the hole drilled to the outside. I have turned a fair amount of pecan and never had a real problem; however, it is very hard when dry.
It seems to warp more than some woods so I try to leave the walls extra thick while drying.

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I agree with everybody!!

Get the grinding jig...

I used to drill a 1/2" or so hole in the middle just as a depth gauge, but since I've gotten a Jacob's chuck, I'll use a big, honkin' Forsner bit...

Unless I'm trying to save the middle piece, of course.

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I agree. The Wolverine and Ellsworth jig is what I use. I'm guessing after you get either setup you'll realize that you only thought the tool were sharp before.
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