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old lathe help

I recently received an old lathe, it needs allot of work! I need some help knowing which direction to go with the chuck and dead/live centers.I have never turned wood on a lathe designed to turn wood
Ultimately I would like to turn bowls, and some larger/ smaller stuff.
I do not have any model #s or the brand.
Besides the rust and the stand it is operational. Here's a couple of pics of what im working with.any suggestions would be appreciated!
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Hi.

I would start by removing and taking apart the center. You will want to remove all the rust you can, especially on the lathe bed. Lots of steel wool. Maybe even naval jelly if it's bad.

I would do the same with the headstock. Grease it up good when you reassemble. Measure the shaft taking note of the thread count and diameter. You can then start searching for chucks and other accessories.

Looks like you'll need a bar for resting your turning tools too.

Are you a righty or lefty? If righty you might set it up with the head on the left end of your table. Will be easier to work.

Hope this helps. Good luck getting it back in shape.

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Very cool post Jax
My reaction to the righty/lefty was the same when I saw the photo.

I recently acquired an old lath also.
First thing we did was clean it, lubed it and anchored 'er down.

The next task was to get the head stock out of the motor so we could install faceplates and different chucks.
This was a bitch.
It was seized inside the tapered hole.
We had to drive it out from the back of the motor.
Once it was out, we cleaned 'er up and now it's just a firm tap with a wooden dowel to change it out.

We have a lathe Guru that helps us out. He was the one that gave us the confidence and know-how to get that piece removed.

We were just standing around, spinning it back & forth trying to figure how the thing came out.

I am very, very new to wood turning but these guys are great at sharing ideas and experience...thanks out there.....

oh yeah.....and YouTube is your friend.........

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Thanks guys
I do have the tool rest, just needs new hardware.the table it is on is temporary till I get finished restoring it.
I have a wood turning for beginners book I will be studying,(along with google / youtube)
my concern is mostly with the dead center it has some major pitting and seems to be threaded through the tailstock. :/
The chuck looks usable but it looks like it is designed to sort of seat itself in the wood ( like a self tapping? ) rather than clamp ...it has a set screw locking it onto a 1/2" shaft.is there a kind of universal chucking system I could use for multiple styles of turnings?
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Nova chuck $$$$$
Look at past posts.

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Pictures do not indicate an operational and functioning lathe! Really cannot help much until clean that bad boy up and remove prong centers in head & tailstock. You either have ĺ x 16 TPI or 1” x 8 TPI headstock spindle. That means you have either MT-1 or MT-2 head/tailstock. Cannot really recommend a chuck until know how sound bearings are. For that lathe probably want the lightest you can find.
If those centers in head/tail stock screw off not sure what to tell you.
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this looks a lot like an old Dunlap

Looks a lot like a 1942 vintage Dunlap lathe which I have. You might find an identification number cast into the iron of the tailstock or headstock -- I'll look for it on mine tonight and let you know where you might find it.

The drive shaft is NOT threaded, nor does it have a Morse Taper of any variety -- it is a half-inch straight with a flat, most commonly associated with the Shopsmith units.

The tailstock is a dead center. It is not removable (at least, I've never been able to remove it, and the sales brochures of the day specifically avoid mentioning Morse Taper for this model, where on the same page it does mention MT for a different model). A machinist might figure out how to do it.

You can get an adapter to fit the Shopsmith drive shaft from Penn State Industries -- I think it converts to 1" 8tpi. With that, you could mount a variety of chucks.

And you can get faceplates that fit from eBay, there are usually several available in different diameters.

A couple of months ago, there was an eBay seller offering a replacement tailstock for $30 or so. I decided to buy a new lathe instead of putting more money into it -- if there had been a simple way to convert the tailstock into a live center I would have done that.

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Looks a lot like a 1942 vintage Dunlap lathe which I have. You might find an identification number cast into the iron of the tailstock or headstock -- I'll look for it on mine tonight and let you know where you might find it.

The drive shaft is NOT threaded, nor does it have a Morse Taper of any variety -- it is a half-inch straight with a flat, most commonly associated with the Shopsmith units.


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You nailed it! Ordered the adapter.
Began disassembling bearings are surprisingly in good condition. Hope to have it painted and ready to run in a couple weeks.thanks guys!
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The Shopsmith adapter is a 5/8 straight, not 1/2". That is, 5/8" to 1"-8 TPI.

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Yeah I mistyped...you are correct
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Yeah I mistyped...you are correct
Sorry ... my Dunlap drive shaft is the 5/8ths Shopsmith standard, not half-inch as previously stated.

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