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Now I need a sharpening system

I am looking at the Rikon Slow Speed Grinder 80-805 (139.00)
http://www.amazon.com/RIKON-Power-To.../dp/B00H2B78YG

Also, what do you guys think about the Wolverine sharpening jig?
(93.00)
http://www.amazon.com/Oneway-2291-Wo...ZC4G7S82YGA5HZ

I sharpen my woodworking chisels and planes by hand now. But with me starting off with a lathe I thought these would be good.

I have heard yea's and nea's about the jig
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You will also need a vari-grind to sharpen wood turning tools. The Wolverine system is worth every cent it cost. I'm not sure how well the wolverine system would sharpen hand plane blades, but it is excellent for wood turning tools. Anybody that doesn't like the jig probably has 20 years experience sharpening free hand. I have one of the cheap no brand slow speed grinders they sell at wood craft for $99. Now I need a sharpening system-image-384771541.jpg

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I got the low speed grinder, the wolverine jig and a CBN wheel. With this setup, even I can but a good edge on a turning tool without burning it. If I can do this, it must be a good setup!
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You will also need a vari-grind to sharpen wood turning tools. The Wolverine system is worth every cent it cost. I'm not sure how well the wolverine system would sharpen hand plane blades, but it is excellent for wood turning tools. Anybody that doesn't like the jig probably has 20 years experience sharpening free hand. I have one of the cheap no brand slow speed grinders they sell at wood craft for $99. Attachment 190746
I doubt I would use it for my planes. It really does not take much upkeep once you get a system down. Since I do lots of handtool woodworking I have taken care of them. The thought of putting them to a grinder raises the hair on my neck
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The Wolverine sharpening jig, used with the Vari-Grind which hwebb mentions, will be a satisfactory sharpening system for the rest of your life.

Oneway also makes something called the Vari-Grind II, which also works but is not the one you should buy. The original Vari-Grind pictured in hwebb's comment is the way to go.
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Just ordered the Rikon, Wolfverine sharpening jig and vari-grind
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I don't think you will be disappointed. You might want to upgrade the grinder wheels, but I have similar wheels on my grinder that work fine.
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If you can afford them, CBN wheels are the way to go. Friable wheels wear and change in shape and diameter. CBN wheels give me the same contour grind each time. I'll never go back.
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If you can afford them, CBN wheels are the way to go. Friable wheels wear and change in shape and diameter. CBN wheels give me the same contour grind each time. I'll never go back.
I will see how well I do with the wheels that come with it first I can upgrade later after I get some practice in.
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Wheels

Okay. I've gone here before but you must have missed it. Simply put, you CAN'T afford any wheel except a CBN wheel. Think it through. You buy cheap, you get cheap. Norton white wheels are great. Except, You have to true them up and keep them that way. Every time you touch a piece of metal to one, you loose a little. They work good as long as you keep adjusting them, moving your guides in, and in, and in. Pretty soon, you buy a new one. How long does it take to wear one out?

A CBN wheel NEVER needs to be trued up. You buy one, ONE TIME, and someone in your family gets to inherit it, because you don't wear them down. Set your jigs in place ONE TIME. The wheels stay the same size forever.

So, the choice is simple. Buy less expensive and replace them over and over plus the anxiety of having to adjust them through their useful life time. OR, get the CBN, set things up once and always have a great wheel ready for you when ever you need it.

Pretty simple choice.

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Okay. I've gone here before but you must have missed it. Simply put, you CAN'T afford any wheel except a CBN wheel. Think it through. You buy cheap, you get cheap. Norton white wheels are great. Except, You have to true them up and keep them that way. Every time you touch a piece of metal to one, you loose a little. They work good as long as you keep adjusting them, moving your guides in, and in, and in. Pretty soon, you buy a new one. How long does it take to wear one out?

A CBN wheel NEVER needs to be trued up. You buy one, ONE TIME, and someone in your family gets to inherit it, because you don't wear them down. Set your jigs in place ONE TIME. The wheels stay the same size forever.

So, the choice is simple. Buy less expensive and replace them over and over plus the anxiety of having to adjust them through their useful life time. OR, get the CBN, set things up once and always have a great wheel ready for you when ever you need it.

Pretty simple choice.

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You do realize the Rikon comes with the wheels. I did not purchase them separately. Nobody is dismissing the "better" wheels. When I do buy new wheels I will let you know what I get OK
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mengtian: there's another small tool that you should buy: an angle measuring device, I've read that the digital ones are under $20. Mine is just mechanical, meant for measuring tip angles on drill bits, etc.
I maintained a set of a dozen Sorbey lathe tools in return for lathe time. Quite a range of bevel angles. I'm sure that they are what they are for a reason.

For bed-time reading, try ch 10: Turning Tools in Leonard Lee's book: The Complete Guide To Sharpening. ISBN 1-56158-067-8. His kids sell it in Lee Valley.
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I'm still using the wheels that came on my grinder. When they wear out I will replace them with CBN wheels. My grinder came with the decent white wheels, not the cheaper grey crappers.
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