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Are these useable for pen blanks? The cracks would need to be glued before drilling.

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If these are usable, I may be able to get 10 or 12 more blanks from the remainder of the log section.

Perhaps time for another give-away ala Rus Demka.
They look usable to me -- but I'd dry them thoroughly before bothering to use any CA on them. (I have a spare microwave just for drying wood)

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Yes, the box is in the mail. You should receive by next Tuesday.

I messed up the first two due to using the fence. I then found it easier to cut these without the fence.

These will need sanding to get them smooth and parallel. So sending the group in case some cannot be used.

The section had a hole down the length, but I know this will be extra "character" for you.

The plastic is the flat twine. Trying to keep the bark intact since you will likely want to maintain. Some sections of bark are not adhered to the wood and will need to be glued. Perhaps a good idea to glue the entire circumference.

A close-up of one of the sections.

I trust you will enjoy looking at the grain pattern and especially the red flames as much as I do.
Cool!!!! Can't wait.
I'm not worried if the bark comes off, but ill figure something out with it. I'm sure they'll be fine.
Ill let you know.
Thanks Dave.
As far as those pen blanks, now I'm no pro in this, but I would think turning those they would fall apart due to grain orientation.
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... I would think turning those they would fall apart due to grain orientation.
I dunno.
I've turned pens where the blanks were cut cross-grain. Once they are successfully drilled and the brass tubes glued in, they're usually no worse than burl or heavily spalted woods.

Getting them drilled, however, might be tricky ... some people have glued slats of wood (e.g. lollipop sticks) to the outsides to provide support while drilling.

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I've turned pens where the blanks were cut cross-grain. Once they are successfully drilled and the brass tubes glued in, they're usually no worse than burl or heavily spalted woods.

Getting them drilled, however, might be tricky ... some people have glued slats of wood (e.g. lollipop sticks) to the outsides to provide support while drilling.
Lol. I didn't realize the tubes go in before you turn them.
Told you I don't turn. Lol

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Looks like you have some keepers. See if whoever you send them to will make you a pen from it. The breaks in the middle won't hurt much, most pens use no more that 2 inch pieces for each barrel and you can cut around the breaks.
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Some more coasters

I have been cutting more coasters from the full diameter log section. It seems they are popular with folks who have never seen Flame Box Elder before.

Here is a before and after finishing comparison. The bark was not stable so I removed it.

About 1/4in - 3/8in thick. I did not measure, just cut free hand on the bandsaw. Diameter is about 7in

Both pieces sanded to 180 grit.

Left is the before. Right is after. First used Zinsner Seal-a-Coat then a final coat of George's Club House Wax.

The rim is coloured with a Red Mahogany felt tip finish repair pen

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That's pretty cool Dave. Nice way to use it and deliver a pretty full impression of the wood. Is this fully dried? Do you expect any more cracking?
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That's pretty cool Dave. Nice way to use it and deliver a pretty full impression of the wood. Is this fully dried? Do you expect any more cracking?
Thanks. I have measured the moisture content. The log section has been in my garage since mid July. I normally keep the garage door closed. I do not know when the tree was taken down. The sections had not been sealed. They did not seem to crack much more in my garage.

I started to cut the section just over a week ago.

I am hoping it does not crack any more, but there is a risk. If a coaster were to break, it could be glued back together. It is a display for the grain pattern more than the shape.
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Left is the before. Right is after. First used Zinsner Seal-a-Coat then a final coat of George's Club House Wax.
These look great -- especially the finished one.

Something to watch out for, though -- if the Zinser product you're using is the one I'm thinking of, it's shellac-based.

That would mean it's at risk if it comes in contact with alcohol -- as most coasters I've owned usually do at some point (who'da thunk it? )

It would probably be a safer bet to apply another finish on top of the Sealcoat -- polyurethan or polyacrylic -- rather than just wax.

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These look great -- especially the finished one.

Something to watch out for, though -- if the Zinser product you're using is the one I'm thinking of, it's shellac-based.

That would mean it's at risk if it comes in contact with alcohol -- as most coasters I've owned usually do at some point (who'da thunk it? )

It would probably be a safer bet to apply another finish on top of the Sealcoat -- polyurethan or polyacrylic -- rather than just wax.
Yes the Seal-a-Coat is shellac based. I was pondering whether to use wipe on polyurethane vs wax.

I may try the wipe on poly when I finished the unfinished one. The only reason this was not finished was to be able to take a comparison picture.
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Yes the Seal-a-Coat is shellac based. I was pondering whether to use wipe on polyurethane vs wax.

I may try the wipe on poly when I finished the unfinished one. The only reason this was not finished was to be able to take a comparison picture.
Understood.

I've used aerosol shellac as a "primer" before applying polyurethane, it made it significantly easier on end-grain.

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I like the way that turned out Dave. It really brings out the beauty in the flame.
Can't wait to do something with mine.
Thanks again buddy.

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