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Hey, I'm surprised it even worked, but it did

I wanted to mortise the handles for my carbide cutter set I ordered from RusDemka, So I got a little crafty and set the drill press up with only what I needed with the mortiser stuff, had to make a solid top last night amongst other things, but finally, after 2 days of thinking, rethinking, standing around, watching Breaking Bad in the shop, I grew a pair and slapped a handle on the DP.

It worked. Perfect 1/2" square hole for the coming tool.

I didnt think it was going to work, after all I have only used that Mortise kit once in the 2 years I have owned it, plus that table assembly sucks for setting up.






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That's awesome. I wonder if you can do the same thing but drill a round hole first???

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That's awesome. I wonder if you can do the same thing but drill a round hole first???
Oh yeah I have done regular round drilling before like this, I just never used the mortising bits this way, I figured it wouldnt work without the mortising fence and other parts you have to normally spend all damn day installing and setting up.

I have more handles clamped and glued up right now, once they are ready I am going to mortise all of them before I take this setup apart.

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Jim ... wanna work out a trade? I've got 2 tools that need handles ...

(The first one I got from Dema I spent nearly an hour at the grinder trying to round over the last couple inches of steel bar -- it worked eventually, but )

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Jim ... wanna work out a trade? I've got 2 tools that need handles ...

(The first one I got from Dema I spent nearly an hour at the grinder trying to round over the last couple inches of steel bar -- it worked eventually, but )

Yeah, What kind of wood do you want me to use?, or you want me to just do my thing, drill the mortise out and you turn it?

Talk to me. lol

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Yeah, What kind of wood do you want me to use?, or you want me to just do my thing, drill the mortise out and you turn it?

Talk to me. lol
That would be perfect -- square billets with the mortice cut.

What can I offer? I've got all sorts of stuff -- pen blanks, bottle stopper blanks, flat boards, a finished bottle stopper (Ruth Niles stainless), several finished pens (mostly Woodturningz "Mesa" -- their version of the Sierra/Wall Street/Gatsby -- but I think there's a couple of rollerballs and a fountain pen too).

Oh, wait a minute ... this isn't WB, we can take the conversation in private

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That would be perfect -- square billets with the mortice cut.

What can I offer? I've got all sorts of stuff -- pen blanks, bottle stopper blanks, flat boards, a finished bottle stopper (Ruth Niles stainless), several finished pens (mostly Woodturningz "Mesa" -- their version of the Sierra/Wall Street/Gatsby -- but I think there's a couple of rollerballs and a fountain pen too).

Oh, wait a minute ... this isn't WB, we can take the conversation in private

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Ill put the headset on, I'm jamming some Van Halen (not Van Haggar) so I probably wont hear phone ring unless I have the headset on, now is a good time to call.

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Jim ... wanna work out a trade? I've got 2 tools that need handles ...

(The first one I got from Dema I spent nearly an hour at the grinder trying to round over the last couple inches of steel bar -- it worked eventually, but )
Sorry duncsuss, I made them as best as I could...

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Sorry duncsuss, I made them as best as I could...
Not intended to be a comment on the product or your workmanship -- I'm sorry if it came out that way.

It was my poor decision to try to make the tool fit the hole in the handle (instead of making the handle fit the tool.)

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Yeah, this setup works nice, able to pump the handles out.

3 more to go this weekend.

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Question! Since you've drilled out the center of the blank, how do you plan to turn it? Custom made adapter to fit inside the square hole, or a 4-jaw on the outside and cut off the waste area inside the jaws? I'm not saying you can't turn it now, just wondering what the plan is.
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would your live center not work in a square? looks like it would
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My plan is to push a 1/2" square steel bar into the hole and grip the other end of the steel bar in a chuck, that takes care of the headstock end. I think a regular live center in the tailstock should be fine.

Wonder where I can get a piece of steel bar ... oh look, I've got 2 of them sitting on the bench waiting for handles

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Great Idea. I think turning the tenon first and then drilling the square hole would work better. I think I will try it this week. Will save on the amount of the epoxy needed that is for sure.
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Did you consider doing the glue up of the blank leaving a void that would be the hole for the tool tang or the space for a gouge? The noticing technique would be good for a solid wood handle that had no glue up.
It will be a nice handle. Using different wood colours to code your tools is a good idea. You could have a collection of different woods that doubled as you handles.
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Question! Since you've drilled out the center of the blank, how do you plan to turn it? Custom made adapter to fit inside the square hole, or a 4-jaw on the outside and cut off the waste area inside the jaws? I'm not saying you can't turn it now, just wondering what the plan is.
My live center worked flawlessly.


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Great Idea. I think turning the tenon first and then drilling the square hole would work better. I think I will try it this week. Will save on the amount of the epoxy needed that is for sure.
I didnt try turning the tenon first, however, I used a wrench to get the tenon perfect after taking most of the material off.


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Did you consider doing the glue up of the blank leaving a void that would be the hole for the tool tang or the space for a gouge? The noticing technique would be good for a solid wood handle that had no glue up.
It will be a nice handle. Using different wood colours to code your tools is a good idea. You could have a collection of different woods that doubled as you handles.
I did actually think about doing a glue up and leaving a void, but what if glue squeezed into the void....be kinda painful trying to clean it out.

Oh, I am not color coding, I was just having fun gluing up material to make the blanks, Ill post a new thread with final pics, handles are done.

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