Okibugg, talk about someone with their drawers in a wad, yes, I think maybe you do.
Don't know what anyone has got against HF but they need to get over it.
I buy USA tools when I can, even if they cost more within reason. There's over $600 worth of Jorgensen clamps in my shop precisely because they were made in the USA.
There's also some good old American made hand tools in there and even my Skil saw is a 1977 model that was made in the USA, and I'm proud of it.
Bottom line is, like it or not, just about all power tools today are made in Asia. All "American" companies like Stanley, Dewalt, Milwaukee, Porter Cable, Rigid, Black & Decker, and Skil have all sold out the American worker by moving their production to other countries then selling the import crap at a price as if it was still made here. I personally think they should be required to change the brand name if it's not made here.
I just feel if I have no choice but to buy an import tool, I might as well pay an import price for it. A lot of the stuff at HF is exactly the same stuff being sold by "American" brand name companies at 3 or 4 times the price. Not clone tools, not look alike tools, but the exact same tools made in the same communist factory with a different label stuck on it. Having said that, HF also sells a fair amount of pure junk as well. The trick is to have enough sense to tell the difference.
I just bought a lathe for $160. That same lathe is sold by an American company for $360. I have a two year full replacement, no questions asked warranty. I hate it, but there were no choices available that were made in the USA. Well, none except for older machines. But buying a used older machine is not providing anyone a job today so what's the point? Now that $160 lathe might not last forever, but it will last just as long as the identical machine that sells for $360 with a different color paint job. And when it does die I will have saved $200 that I can apply toward another machine.
First, My pants are not in a wad. I was merely expressing my opinion about purchasing quality vs utilitarian equipment. Again, it is my opinion. Opinions are like noses....everybody has one, including you and I.
Second, I never mentioned Harbor Freight in any of my opinions, and wont.
The tools I have purchased in my lifetime started out with the least expensive tools that would do the job I was asking. As I got older and had a little experience, I learned that all tools were not what they seemed. I started buying better quality, and staying away from Chinese/Asian manufactured power tools. Someone said that A lathe is a lathe as long as the spindles line up-true to a degree. What happens when you are turning a small project requiring precision? If the spindles line up and you have a severe degree of run-out, your project will not be to a high degree of accuracy. When you have to replace the head bearing within a few weeks, and cannot cross check the bearing in the head to replace it, you are up the poop creek. What if you purchase a new lathe, get it home, unpack it, and the tool rest won't stay locked?
These are mentioned because I have seen stuff happen
"Engineer", I'm not disagreeing with your opinions, just offering another way to look at it, which on a public forum is allowed.
I do appreciate you in that this difference can be debated on the internet without starting a war