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Ferrules....read

http://www.wkfinetools.com/contrib/j...utFerrule1.asp



See if this works,neat approach to one of my favorite turnings;file handles

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Pretty cool. But, I gotta ask...will wood handle files float?








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I'd love to try this, and am willing to let someone else go first...

I've concerns about turning the brass, although I know it's much softer than the steel of a turning tool...

Also, lessons about the hole for the tool would help...
A small drilled hole, perhaps?
File driven into said hole?

Okay, I'll peruse that site further for clues.

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will wood handle files float?
No, but they'll sink slower, I suspect.

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Been using brass ferrules for years. It turns quite easily you just have to let the tool do the work. Your forward progress will be slower. Just watch for curls and you know you'll be turning it successfully. I do find that occasionally it will scraper better than cut but that's rare.
Brass and copper either one can be work hardened. If you suspect this is a problem you can anneal it. Heat it red hot and quench it. That will soften it. I know that's backwards from steel but it works.
These are tools I just made. The Ferrule is a brass coupler. I believe it was 3/8 thread to 1/4" copper adaptor. As you can see once you turn off the hex part you still have a fair amount of brass left. Since it has a natural taper going from the hex down to the 1/4" sweat on size it works perfectly for smaller tools like this. all of these Ferrules were the same size.
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Been using brass ferrules for years. It turns quite easily you just have to let the tool do the work.
That's some nice work. They look absolutely great.








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Pretty cool. But, I gotta ask...will wood handle files float?








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I do several things when it comes to drilling the holes for tools. First, I always drill the hole first. then I use either a cone center or some custom made adaptors to my live center to fit in the hole. this centers the hole exactly.
for tools that I make out of round rod I drill the hole the same size. I then drill a very small hole through the side near the bottom of this hole. then I use epoxy to glue the tool in. When you insert the tool it squirts some epoxy out the small hole, this seals the small hole but also lets air and epoxy escape so the hydraulic pressure won't push the tool back out. I just wipe off the excess.
for tools that have a square or tapered tang I use an old blacksmiths trick. I drill hole smaller than the tang. If it's tapered I drill several holes, all smaller than the tang. Then I heat the top of the tang red hot, let it cool the red is just barely gone and then drive the handle on. The hot metal shapes it's own hole. Usually you cannot pull the tool out so no epoxy is needed. You may have to dip the tool in water to cool it down.
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Lignum Vitea will not float so if you made your handle out of that your file will definitely sink.
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Thanks for the link. Very informative.
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That's really cool! I need a lathe! lol

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Heck,when I was kid and the whole wood/metal,filing is fun thing............took hold.Used to use corn cobs as handles,duh.Hey it works.Have been using 1/2" EMT tubing ferrules for so long now,its become habit.

Love the style/craftsmanship that John L does.I like a handle thats eliptical.....sorta the same diameter on both ends.And really like whole sets of handles to match.BW

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