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Facing tool question


I am having a LOT of trouble with blanks blowing out when I use the facing tool on them, it happens on acrylic, stabilized, dried wood. It seems like I have had terrible luck with them today. I lost over $35.00 ($50 if you figure tnew tubes, kits, glue & shipping) today alone. This was before I ever turned the lathe on!
I have used a cordless on low & high speed a regular drill 2 different facing tools and just about every idea I can think of. When I face them, I trim them to within 1/8 before I try to use the facing tools. I have not changed glues or technique with gluing in the tubes. I could REALLY use some advice on this one.

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how are you holding the blanks when you drill them? I have never had a blank break while using the trimmer. I put the blank in a vise on my drill press, lower the shaft of the trimmer into the tube to line it up, lock it down and start the drill press. I use light pressure and stop when I see the brass ring of the tube show. If you continue to have trouble, you could trim the blank to within an 1/8" like you mentioned and put it on the mandrel like that. Use your turning tool to lightly shave the end and face it off that way. I would round the blank first and then face it. If this doesn't do it, maybe you could post some pics of what you are doing and a blank that has failed.
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Here are the photos i took of the blanks, i am holding them with clamps.

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I have to wonder if your trimmer is sharp. Are you cutting the wood with the trimmer or tearing it with the trimmer. I feel bad for you and I understand your frustration, but I've always felt that end trimming was pretty much fool proof. Time for a new trimmer? Or a honing of the bit.
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One of the trimmers is about 40 peices old the other is about 5 peices old.

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After I think about this a while it sounds like you are drilling them by hand and possibly holding them that way. This could easily cause that problem. I use a drill press and vice to face my pens but then I've only made about a dozen pens.
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I have to agree with John. If your trimmers are in good shape, and it sounds like they should be, you really need to use a drill press. I think by drilling them by hand if the drill wavers just a bit, it will cause the trimmer to catch a side and bust out the wood. I haven't had any break while using the drill press.
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Well I just blew $200.00 on a drill press and $60.00 on a centering vice if I blow out another blank I think I will then till I get the nerve to tell my wife I just blew $260.00.

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Let us know what happens D, good luck,
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You just have to learn to justify everything you buy. I start the "if I only had this I could do this" really early before I absolutely need the tool. Then I can ease into the purchase with a "clear" conscience. :)
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You just have to learn to justify everything you buy. I start the "if I only had this I could do this" really early before I absolutely need the tool. Then I can ease into the purchase with a "clear" conscience. :)
This sounds like me!!

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The drill press worked my wife wont kill me now (tomorrow is another story). Drilled 14 pens (28 holes) and faced them (56 ends) 6 acrylic and 4 stabilized With out one blow out. I just wish I had a stool in my shop my knee is killing me.It will take 2-3 days before I can walk again let alone turn these. Man I wish I had some medicines that worked. I have tried every thing from aspirin to Valium and my leg and knee is still killing me.

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Dollis,
Glad to hear the drill press is doing the trick for you. Sorry to hear about your knee. Rubber mats help at all? Sears sells a nice stool with a back on it. It's adjustable for height and the back is also adjustable. Even has a footrest. Catch 'em on sale when they run them at half price, around 39.00.
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Commercial mats are available at Sam's Club. That's where I got mine. They really help with standing on concrete. Get the thick red rubber ones with lots of holes.

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