drill chuck in tailstock - Woodworking Talk - Woodworkers Forum
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 10 Old 01-08-2009, 10:49 AM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
thekctermite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Mission, KS
Posts: 537
View thekctermite's Photo Album My Photos
drill chuck in tailstock

As a newbie turner I have a newbie question.

I have a Jet 1220vs lathe and just got a 1/2" drill chuck to put in the tailstock for drilling various things. The tailstock has a #2 morse taper, as does the drill chuck adapter. The chuck simply slides into the adapter and the adapter simply slides into the tailstock.

I seated the chuck into the adapter with a sharp rap from a rubber mallet. That worked well. But the adapter has a little tendency to spin in the tailstock since the drilling operation doesn't really put a huge amount of friction on the tailstock like turning with the live center would. The tailstock is self-ejecting and it takes no effort or pressure at all to eject the chuck, unlike the live center.

Is it normal for the chuck to turn a little or can anyone suggest anything to get this thing to seat tight?
thekctermite is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 10 Old 01-08-2009, 11:47 AM
Senior Member
 
firehawkmph's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Near Cleveland, Ohio
Posts: 5,026
View firehawkmph's Photo Album My Photos
Termite,
It may be doing that now just because it's new. When I put my chuck in the tailstock, I don't rap it with anything. As soon as I start drilling, it may start to move a fraction of a rotation, then stops and stays put. The only time it will spin other than that is when using a larger forstner bit (say 2" or bigger) and the wood is very hard. Then I'll give it a rap with a rubber mallet. After drilling, I can't pull it out by hand, I have to retract the tailstock to eject it. If it continues, maybe you could scuff up the taper on the chuck adapter with some 100 grit emery cloth.
Mike Hawkins
firehawkmph is offline  
post #3 of 10 Old 01-08-2009, 12:19 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Baxter, Tennessee
Posts: 3,257
View john lucas's Photo Album My Photos
Make sure your tailstock quill is clean. If it's dirty or has shaving in it the morse taper won't seat properly. I often put one hand on the chuck as I feed the drill because I've had a quill slip like you are talking about. This has usually only happened on less expensive lathes or when I'm really pushing a drill.
You should back the drill out occasionally. If too many shavings get packed in the twisted grooves it can jam on you and will spin in the quill.
john lucas is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 10 Old 01-08-2009, 12:40 PM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
thekctermite's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Mission, KS
Posts: 537
View thekctermite's Photo Album My Photos
Thanks guys. Glad to hear that I'm not doing this completely wrong. I do back the drill out to keep shavings from getting caught up in the bit.
thekctermite is offline  
post #5 of 10 Old 01-08-2009, 06:37 PM
WoodTurner
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Huntington Beach
Posts: 110
View vcooney's Photo Album My Photos
I have a Jet 16/42 and my chuck also slips at times. So I back off on the feed or just hold the chuck in my hand, it doesn't take much to keep it from spining. Cleaning the oil out of the tailstock helps.

vince
vcooney is offline  
post #6 of 10 Old 01-13-2009, 02:28 PM
Guest
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 6
View jhelsel's Photo Album My Photos
Spinning adaptor

I really think you have some wood dust, chips, or pitch in the #2 Morse taper socket. I have a #2 Morse taper reamer that I insert into the tail stock and rotate it slightly (by hand) to clean it up. I then use compressed air to finish removing any remaining dust. Using this method I never have to bummp the chuck into the socket with a mallet and it never spins.
jhelsel is offline  
post #7 of 10 Old 01-13-2009, 03:16 PM
Senior Member
 
mdlbldrmatt135's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Olean, Ny
Posts: 802
View mdlbldrmatt135's Photo Album My Photos
Send a message via MSN to mdlbldrmatt135 Send a message via Yahoo to mdlbldrmatt135 Send a message via Skype™ to mdlbldrmatt135
The above mentioned is the best bet. Alot of industrial tool suppliers (Travers, MSC etc..) Will sell the taper cleaners

Last edited by mdlbldrmatt135; 01-13-2009 at 03:31 PM.
mdlbldrmatt135 is offline  
post #8 of 10 Old 01-13-2009, 03:20 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Baxter, Tennessee
Posts: 3,257
View john lucas's Photo Album My Photos
Be aware that there is a difference between a taper cleaner and a taper reamer. I would not suggest using a reamer. This removes metal. You could easily throw off the alignment if you ream it very often. The reamers were designed to be used in a machine for accuracy.
A morse taper cleaner is a rubber tapered bar that has a mild abrasive on it to clean the taper without changing it's shape. There should also be a pretty good difference in price.
john lucas is offline  
post #9 of 10 Old 01-14-2009, 04:35 PM
Guest
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Posts: 6
View jhelsel's Photo Album My Photos
Reamer vs.cleaner

John,

You are right about the taper cleaner vs. the taper reamer. The taper cleaner is less expensive and safer to use in the tapered hole. I happen to have both and find that the reamer works better. However, you need to be careful using it so that you doon't remove metal; only wood or pitch. I simply insert the reamer and give it a couple of light turns by hand. It skims out the waste, leaving the surface clean.
jhelsel is offline  
post #10 of 10 Old 01-14-2009, 04:49 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Baxter, Tennessee
Posts: 3,257
View john lucas's Photo Album My Photos
Thanks for clearing that up. I picked up a taper reamer at the flea mkt figuring that I would only use it as a last resort. It was too cheap to pass up.
john lucas is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Woodworking Talk - Woodworkers Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
what kind of chuck would i use to turn wood if i would use a chuck to turn wood? intolight Woodturning 7 12-01-2010 02:18 AM
Chuck question sander Woodturning 3 12-14-2008 05:51 PM
drill press chuck removal Reg Orchard Tips, Tricks, & Homemade Jigs 5 11-29-2008 05:51 PM
Ridgid 3/8 drill- use a 1/2 chuck? jeffbayne Power Tools & Machinery 3 09-11-2008 11:46 AM
Need a screw chuck Roll Tide Woodturning 6 04-13-2008 02:04 PM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome