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post #21 of 29 Old 02-28-2018, 05:26 PM
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I'm building one of these zig-zag chairs: https://the189.com/wordpress/wp-cont...Rietveld-3.jpg out of Peruvian Walnut and my question is simply this:

Will glue hold the weight of a person sitting or do I need to bolt it up like this earlier model from the 30s?:

http://www.moma.org/media/W1siZiIsIj...1b04289829e92f

I, of course, have been watching video after video showing how 'glue is stronger than hardware', but I wanted to get the opinions of some seasoned folks.
I think that will become a chair you have to monitor to prevent an embarrassment.
Oh no Aunt Ethel, donít sit there, youíll be more comfortable over here.

If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when will you have time to do it over?
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I thought of a different way .....

Thinking about my previous post with angled dados with same width "splines" idea, I came up with this. Make a plywood gluing form with the correct seat, back and floor angles having open spaces from rails running lengthwise, rather than a solid seat like supports. Have stop blocks for your basic dimension, so when you make your glue up laminations they are the correct distances apart. Start laminating 1" X 3/4" strips in the shape of the chair, overlapping them on the ends as you go. Some strip will need the correct angles precut on them. These will get trimmed off after it's all done. Continue to build across the width with the strips attaching them to the previous ones which have set up. You can make it as wide as need this way and the alternating strips will form their own finger joints without having to cut individual dados. It will still look like angled finger joints, but made with individual strips.

It will look much like this:

The answer to your question will only be as detailed and specific as the question is detailed and specific. Good questions also include a sketch or a photo that illustrates your issue. (:< D)

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I showed the Zig zag chair to my wife and to my surprise she loved it and wants one in teak or walnut. So of course I agreed. To be honest I think the form looks silly but it is interesting from an engineering and design standpoint and obviously gets a rise out of people.

I legit like the Zig zag rocking chair, beautiful design and engineering, and might build one for the deck.
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It will still look like angled finger joints, but made with individual strips.
Oh! I see what you mean and that would be cool. Totally different approach, but a really great idea and in some ways very easy to manage with minimal tools. I already bought my wood boards, so I probably won't go this route exactly, but since I am building my 15in width out of three 5in boards, I could at least do the interlocking between each board - even for the angles. I'll have to ponder it.

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I think that will become a chair you have to monitor to prevent an embarrassment.
Oh no Aunt Ethel, donít sit there, youíll be more comfortable over here.
Too funny and too true. Aunt Ethel probably had it coming.

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I showed the Zig zag chair to my wife and to my surprise she loved it and wants one in teak or walnut. So of course I agreed. To be honest I think the form looks silly but it is interesting from an engineering and design standpoint and obviously gets a rise out of people.
Ha! So you are going to build the chair rather than the rocker? The form is, I think, supposed to look somewhat silly (or maybe light-hearted is a more historically accurate description). Reitveld made it in an attempt to design the simplest chair possible - out of a single board. The surprising simplicity of the zig zag design he ultimately discovered led him to describe the piece not as a chair but as a "designer joke". Joke or no, I find it is really stunning.
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Hi Videoword,

When you started this thread I pulled out some old info on these...and just got around to compiling some stuff that may be of interest...Good Luck with your project. Link is below.

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Thanks for compiling those. I also went to down a showroom that resells the officially produced chairs and took some measurements. It's a little different than the pictures seem to indicate on first glance. Each plane is tapered slightly, creating something of an optical illusion. I'll post some pictures of the progress in the projects showroom.
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Thanks for compiling those. I also went to down a showroom that resells the officially produced chairs and took some measurements. It's a little different than the pictures seem to indicate on first glance. Each plane is tapered slightly, creating something of an optical illusion. I'll post some pictures of the progress in the projects showroom.
Awesome...I saw a very similar one over the weekend myself in a boutique...Springy but much stronger than expected. I actually like the design a lot now that I have seen something up close! Modern does have its place and these simplistic designs are compelling in nature and stature. The whimsy of them is kind'a cool...

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Any build progress?
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Any build progress?
Slow, but steady:

http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/f13/z...ogress-197282/

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