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post #21 of 24 Old 10-22-2012, 02:43 AM
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TCM, I would suggest that on the bed seen in the video - for strength I would add some L shaped corner brackets on the inside frame corners (the frame that supports the slats) for more reinforcement and also bolt the legs to the frame as well. That should keep the bed sturdy. This hardware will not be seen as its inside and underneath.
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post #22 of 24 Old 11-05-2012, 10:50 PM Thread Starter
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I wanted to draw up some plans but you might be able to locate some off the Internet; however, my suggestion would be to use larger lag screws and 2x6 lumber. Screw in from the end instead of trying to hide the small PH screws. I didn't have time to draw plans but here is a website where someone did this. http://lumberjocks.com/projects/4876

A lot of children's beds are made this way. You have all the tools you will need.

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I have been looking at this, as I am getting ready to start bed number 2.

Do I need a special drill bit to make holes for this? What size screw would you recommend for a 2x6? How do I get the hole on the surface that the screw head will sink into? I know the one countersink bit I have won't make those kind of holes. I tried looking through youtube videos, but clearly I don't know what to search for, because all I mostly found were what looked like commercials for drills.

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I have been looking at this, as I am getting ready to start bed number 2.

Do I need a special drill bit to make holes for this? What size screw would you recommend for a 2x6? How do I get the hole on the surface that the screw head will sink into? I know the one countersink bit I have won't make those kind of holes. I tried looking through youtube videos, but clearly I don't know what to search for, because all I mostly found were what looked like commercials for drills.

Thanks!
I start the hole with a spade bit slightly larger than the head of the lag and drill to a depth slightly deeper than the thickness of the head. Then switch drills/bits and drill the pilot hole itself.

EDIT, actually, the spade bit needs to large enough to accept the socket/tool you are going to be using to install the lags.

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post #24 of 24 Old 11-06-2012, 09:45 AM
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If you want to use bolts from the end remember that you are going into end grain so screw type bolts are far from ideal. You want to use 3/8 in x 5 inch bolts with captureded nuts.
It's much easier than it may sound.
Above is a picture. If you can find it. you could do a search for Lee Valley then Search for Bed bolts and you will find the right hardware and the pictures of how to use them.
You could use the same bolts from a Box store but less elegantly.
If you must use lag bolts then a few holes drilled sideways in the path of the bolts with the same size dowel(ideally at least 3/4) could be glued in and they would give the bolts a stronger purchase.
The captured bolts with your had tools are pretty easy to to use. Drill slightly oversized holes. Use a spade bit or forstner bit. hol the nut with a magnet while you screw the long bolt from the end.
I hope this was not too confusing. Im using an internet cafe computer so cant see the format of what i"m typing as well.

Last edited by Midlandbob; 11-06-2012 at 10:05 AM. Reason: It's a mess . Done at cafe station. Bad formatting
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