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Stove Top Cover Glue Up Problem

Hey, I’m building a stove top for my dads friend. It is in two parts, to allow her to only take off one side to use the right hand burners and heat knobs. I’m trying to glue it up but i can’t figure out how. There’s only 3 sides, 2 of which have miter joints on them. And the top will sit flush to the sides. because there’s no 3rd side, i can’t use a strap clamp because it just pulls the bottom in ward. And i can’t use corner clamps because the top has to sit flush. And i don’t have clamps that fit that wide (although i could buy them if i really need to). So if anyone has an idea it would be great to hear it! Thanks!

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To me, what you are doing is a significant safety problem. I do not want ANY stove top covers that are made of flammable material. There are just too many scenarios where they could accidentally catch fire.

If your friend insists on it then fine. Do what he/she wants, but be sure that they understand the potential hazards.

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No wood on a stove top! Dangerous! James, if there was a fire, it could come back to haunt you.....and your attorney.
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Hey, I’m building a stove top for my dads friend. It is in two parts, to allow her to only take off one side to use the right hand burners and heat knobs. I’m trying to glue it up but i can’t figure out how. There’s only 3 sides, 2 of which have miter joints on them. And the top will sit flush to the sides. because there’s no 3rd side, i can’t use a strap clamp because it just pulls the bottom in ward. And i can’t use corner clamps because the top has to sit flush. And i don’t have clamps that fit that wide (although i could buy them if i really need to). So if anyone has an idea it would be great to hear it! Thanks!

Here’s a pic of the left half of the stove top.
Hello James,

I'm sorry...Like the others this is a really...BAD, HORRID, SCARY...idea!!!!

Soapstone...Tile...Glass...Custom Ceramic...2" Mineral Wool Board with decorative copper cladding...etc...NOTHING that can burn!!!!

These aren't "worry wart" concerns. This happens all the time and burns houses down...!!!

Please walk away from this project or suggest changes to friend/client!!!

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Chalk me up as another person pointing out this is a bad idea. Heat and wood is a bad idea.

Concerning the glueup issue, theres no reason you couldnt have a 4th piece in place for the glueup so you could use your strap clamp, just dont glue the 4th piece
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Putting fire issues aside, you can clamp a wide panel with short clamps by using your bench hooks. Put a bench hook on each side pointing toward the middle of the panel, and then clamp the hooks pulling them together. Youll need stout bench hooks. Much harder to explain than to show or do. I'm on my phone but I'll see if I can find a picture and post it.
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Putting fire issues aside, you can clamp a wide panel with short clamps by using your bench hooks. Put a bench hook on each side pointing toward the middle of the panel, and then clamp the hooks pulling them together. Youll need stout bench hooks. Much harder to explain than to show or do. I'm on my phone but I'll see if I can find a picture and post it.
I was able to figure it out. I was planning on doweling the sides on to the top after the frame was glued up, but i decided to dowel on one side to the top then i’ll just go from there.

Concerning the safety issues...Making it out of wood was what she insisted on. And it’s really only an issue if you leave the flame on when you place the cover back on top. And she’s “social” i guess, so she will mostly have it on during parties or whatever for extra counter space.
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I was able to figure it out. I was planning on doweling the sides on to the top after the frame was glued up, but i decided to dowel on one side to the top then i’ll just go from there.

Concerning the safety issues...Making it out of wood was what she insisted on. And it’s really only an issue if you leave the flame on when you place the cover back on top. And she’s “social” i guess, so she will mostly have it on during parties or whatever for extra counter space.
I'm social too.....I made many a STUPID firecalls as a fire chief due to lack of........(you fill in the blank as you fit BUT WE couldn't write tickets for Lack of common sense A.K.A. stupidity) on a homeowner OR a so called tradesman.....I worked a fire once where a business owner had a trades/shop teacher build him a steel smoker to put against a wood building AND he did it......to TOP that on off the building inspector for safety had them put a single piece of 5-V tin mounted DIRECTLY to wood building with screws AND place smoker against it with 0" airspace!!!! AND we wonder why it caught on fire?!?!?! DUH !!!!

NOT on my LIABILITY!!!! She'd HAVE to find someone else....with the insurance and court system in place today, you'd be found holding the bag at your expense....EVEN IF you got a waiver signed, they'd say "....it was obvious you knew better or you would'nt had a waiver signed.....guilty!!!"

Sorry mate, tell pops your saving your hide...hard feelings can be forgotten....somebody's loss is hard to bear.
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Maybe we don't understand what he has written. It is possible.

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I was able to figure it out. I was planning on doweling the sides on to the top after the frame was glued up, but i decided to dowel on one side to the top then i’ll just go from there.

Concerning the safety issues...Making it out of wood was what she insisted on. And it’s really only an issue if you leave the flame on when you place the cover back on top. And she’s “social” i guess, so she will mostly have it on during parties or whatever for extra counter space.
Hi James,

I'm sorry that many of us "seemed to" just grind on this in a negative way...BUT!!!

Tennessee Tim went and did what I wanted to avoid...(Good for him)...!!!...and gave you some "real world" life experience examples of this being a really bad idea.

Your common sense isn't in question, nor even of the young woman you are making this for...Not at all from my perspective.

The "common sense" and "ignorance I, and the other posters (correct me if I am wrong guy's!?) is that..."IDIOT"...at one of her parties that doesn't have the common sense "God gave a Gopher!"

He/She's the one that will cause a fire that then burns a structure done...!!!

Tennessee Tim (and now me) are trying to really express examples of exactly what we have seen in our lives from... things that can burn... being put on things that cause them to...It happens all the time and that's why this is really a bad idea...


Please make this by all mean...

BUT!!!!!!

...Please make it out of something that does not catch fire...Its not that difficult a change or fix...


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I was able to figure it out. I was planning on doweling the sides on to the top after the frame was glued up, but i decided to dowel on one side to the top then i’ll just go from there.

Concerning the safety issues...Making it out of wood was what she insisted on. And it’s really only an issue if you leave the flame on when you place the cover back on top. And she’s “social” i guess, so she will mostly have it on during parties or whatever for extra counter space.
You can't allow this to happen. Murphy's Law says .... If it can go wrong, (burn down) it will. It's only human to screw up occasionallly, so keep flammables away from flames.

I have an electrical smooth surface cooktop which I never use. I have it covered with a same size piece of Lexan to protect it from things that are stored on top. The breaker to this device is turned off at the panel. There is no way it can be turn on ... accidentally.
I am the only person who knows which breaker it is and where it is.
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I did much the same thing. I had a gas stove that went out so I turned the gas off and covered it with a piece of plywood with formica on it. Just used an electric cooktop on the stove until we could find a replacement stove.
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I did much the same thing. I had a gas stove that went out so I turned the gas off and covered it with a piece of plywood with formica on it. Just used an electric cooktop on the stove until we could find a replacement stove.
But you turned the gas to the stove off, so there was no possibility of a burner being lit under the wood cover. The OP wants to put it on a working stove.
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I read all the replies and I agree. Don't do it.

So it's in two pieces. What happens when some idiot comes along and lights the burner on the wrong side. They don't see fire so they try another burner until one does show a flame. Could be disastrous.

As for the lady...I don't think she knows what is at stake.

Don't do it.

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