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post #1 of 7 Old 03-02-2019, 02:58 PM Thread Starter
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Speakeasy door construction

I was wondering if you should glue the individual tongue and groove planks that make up the center of my door. The overall center panel after itís assembled will be glued to the stiles and the top and bottom rails. I am concerned about expansion and contraction and not sure how to handle this. I am attaching the diagram I put together.
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post #2 of 7 Old 03-02-2019, 03:34 PM
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Yes you can glue the tongue and groove boards together but where it fits into the frame of the door it should float loose. Over time the center panel will shrink and if you glue it into the frame when the panel shrinks it will split to relieve the stress.
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Thank you, that is just the opposite of how I thought to proceed. I assume to still leave a bit more depth to the groove than the length of the tongue.
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Thank you, that is just the opposite of how I thought to proceed. I assume to still leave a bit more depth to the groove than the length of the tongue.
Whether it is a house door or cabinet door the center panels are always left loose using solid wood and depending on the size of the door the panels are anywhere from 1/8" to 1/4" smaller in width than the rails are long. The panel can shrink but in humid weather they can swell up pushing the door apart if there isn't enough clearance. For cabinet doors they make a product called space balls which are rubber balls you put in the grooves of the stiles to keep the panel from rattling.

"I assume to still leave a bit more depth to the groove than the length of the tongue." I'm not exactly understanding that statement. If you mean the length of the tongue on the rails they should be made to fit as snug as possible. Any air spaces there will weaken the door.
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The panel should be loose to account for wood expansion (you can add spacers to keep it from rattling) but the actual tongue and grooved pieces that make up the panel should be glued. A lot of panels these days are made with a plywood core to avoid warping (and cut down on cost).



What are the circles you have drawn on there by the way?



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Thanks for the feedback, not sure what you mean about circles in the drawing unless you are speaking of the 1.5" decorative iron large head nails.
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Thanks for the feedback, not sure what you mean about circles in the drawing unless you are speaking of the 1.5" decorative iron large head nails.



Figured that's what they were. Those will look nice on that style of door


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