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Screw/nail into end/edge grain?

Maybe stupid question but do you avoid putting screw or nails into end or edge grain of the wood?
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I wouldn't try it. Kind of the same thing as splitting firewood but on a smaller scale, yes?
If you absolutely had to, you have to make the perfect pilot hole.
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I wouldn't try it. Kind of the same thing as splitting firewood but on a smaller scale, yes?
If you absolutely had to, you have to make the perfect pilot hole.
+1. And, use coarse thread screws. Use screws of sufficient length to bed the screws. This would apply to solid wood, plywood, and composites, like MDF and particleboard.






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+1. And, use coarse thread screws. Use screws of sufficient length to bed the screws. This would apply to solid wood, plywood, and composites, like MDF and particleboard.
+1 on all that. VERY long coarse-thread screws if it's a softwood and pilot holes for sure, especially if it's a hardwood otherwise your screw is just a little wood-splitting wedge.

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If you pre-drill a hole there shouldn't be a problem.
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Consider the possibility of using pocket hole screws. They are installed with a wide shoulder and flat headed screw keeping the end grain from splitting and will hold tighter
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Another alternative would be to use a cross dowel rather than screwing into the end grain

http://www.rockler.com/cross-dowels
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I second the idea for a cross dowel, though instead of fancy hardware i just use a wooden dowel and drive the screw into its sidegrain
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I have no problem screwing into edge grain. Screws grip as well in edge grain as they do in face grain.

End grain is problematic though. When I need to screw into end grain I either insert a wood cross dowel from a non-viewed side or I use screws about twice as long.

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