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post #21 of 29 Old 04-13-2013, 08:40 AM
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Sorry guys, only a few answered correctly......PROPER SCREW for the PROPER JOB....and one final could be the bit. Somewhere I musta missed the pics somebody mentioned.

From what I've gathered from OP is he's trying to make a drywall screw do a pocketscrew's designs job. Drywall screws are bugle head designed to spread out the paper/countersink and hold a grip without splitting the paper face (the main strength of drywall).....so when he's installing in the soft wood it just spreads and buries deeper punching out the other side....where the pocketscrew (I prefer the full head kregs) has a good square shoulder to pull the joint together.

I haven't decided if this may be an error of lack of knowledge ...or of trying to save too many pennies ???? I don't know...BUT a pocketscrew has it's WONDERFUL places in my workspace and I've never had any problems provided I used as recommended and as Cabinetman stated maybe another form of joinery is needed, but if ya cut corners there too you'll still be in the same boat....sinking.

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I have been using Kreg's tools for over 8 years now. I started with there master pocket hole system and never turned back. If you think that Kregs system is not cut and dry on how to use then you need to invest in the videos. There is no way to get a screw to blow out the other side in softwood UNLESS you are thinner then then 3/4". I mill all my own wood. I get all wood from a mill instead of the box stores as there wood is not dried to 6%. They also very in thickness from time to time. Invest in a thickness caliper to check thickness of all wood that you are working with. If you are under 3/4" in any wood and you are set at 3/4" it will blow out. Use fine screws 1 1/4" (only from Kreg) for hardwood and course screws 1 1/4" (only from Kreg) on all 3/4" material. You can buy any pocket hole system that you want but with all tools if you do not know how to use it, read the manual or watch the video cause normally its not the tool its the user. Kreg might not be for everyone but I have walked into a lot of wood shops and cabinet shops and they all have some sort of pocket hole system (90% are Kreg).

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If your screws are poking through, you are either drilling your pocket hole too deep, and or using the wrong screws.

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Figured it out thanks to this forum. I was using the wrong screws. I started out using the fine thread screws that the jig came with on soft spruce and the threads kept stripping out. Next I tried coarse threaded drywall screws because I could not find coarse pocket screws and of "coarse" the threads pulled the head of the screw right through the stock. I now have found the correct coarse Kreg screws (very inexpensive by the way), and everything works just fine. Thanks for all the helpful suggestions!!!
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Right tool for the right job

Measure Twice Cut Once -- It's a lot easier to cut more off then it is to cut MORON.
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Right tool for the right job
Couldnt agree more, but with that said we all mistakes and it is nice to have a place to kick your issues off of others with the same interests.

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You're missing an "r" in mistreak.

Use the right tool for the job.

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You might want to try an alternative form of joinery.

Right ... and, in the meantime ... YOU might consider the goals of the question. He asked for help perfecting the already chosen method of joinery ... NOT ... snide comments which offer absolutely nothing of substance relative to the problem at hand.

The RIGHT screw ... drilled & driven to the RIGHT depth for the material being used will yield a perfectly strong joint for the task at hand.
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