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post #1 of 43 Old 11-22-2007, 06:01 PM Thread Starter
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new dato blade is crap

I need help and advice. On what Dato blade to buy on a budget. I have a new Sears dato blade. It was about $60. I shopped around a while. I guess I should have spent more because my dato's look like crap

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Here is the setup. is it possable I'm doing something wrong.

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IMHO Cross grain dados like that will have tearout........... something looks off with tthe chippers you're using... like the dia. is different........
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You get what you paid for. You need to go with carbide. At a minimum go with a 24 tooth Freud. If you want to go full bore get a Forrest.

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Check out the dado blades by Ridge Carbide. They make awesome blades for good prices.

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Those cuts are aweful....doesn't appear to be anything you did. Take it back and look into a Freud SD206 or 208 for ~ $80...fine set for the price. If u don't mind spending closer to $100, the DeWalt DW7670 (also comes as a Delta 35-7670) has twice as many teeth and leaves a bit smoother cut. It comes with a nice case and a great set of shim stock too.

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Finger joints, I think that's what you're going for, are easier to make on the router table I think.

That blade cuts lousy. Double dittoes on Freud and Forrest. Infinity is supposed to be very good as is CMT.
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Those cuts are B-A-D. For any joint you'll want a blade that has chipper and edge blades that are the same diameter. The raised center in the cuts in your photo are the result of poorly matched (ground) blades. If you don't want to buy a new set you could try dropping them with a good sharpening shop for re-grinding. If the shop gets them all to the same diameter they might be fine. Try backing up your cuts with a sacrificial fence to avoid the tearout. Your set is a relatively inexpensive one, but you can work a bit more to get good results with it. If you want to buy a better set look for chippers with 4 cutters instead of 2 and carbide throughout. The best sets will offer 1 or 2 smaller width chippers to make varying the size of your cuts easier. Many woods (like the poplar in your photo) will tearout with a wide dado and no backup fence no matter what your feed-rate is or how good the set.

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Freud make a dedicated boxjoint set just for that purpose, sells for under a 100 on internet.
Whoever said Freud is bad must be using the blades backwards. Freud is among the highest rated blades out there.
They make an awesome dado set that will cost you around 185.
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Look a bit lower and you will see a post about Freud blades
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Who said Freud makes bad blades?
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That was just a piece of scrap poplar it ran thru a few times. I went to Woodcraft and got a Freud. I'm just begining wood working. I've been shopping all spring and summer for deals on tool's. I'm only a few months into it. When I was in school I always had wood shop, that was a long time ago. I'm doing a lot of
practicing on corners an different joints. I think I'm going to have bite the bullet and get some kind of dust collection setup next. Thanks for the advice on the Freud. I'm writing Sears to complain. How can they even sell that thing. It's useless.

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I'll probably make a clock out of the darn thing.

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PK; When I first read your post on blades the comment "double dittos" right after the previous comment of "blade cuts lousy" appeared to imply that Freud and Forrest also cut lousy :}:}:}
After re-reading Never mind LOL LOL LOL
I have already gone into the shop and consoled my Freud blades and they understand you weren't being mean to them ROFLMAO
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PK; When I first read your post on blades the comment "double dittos" right after the previous comment of "blade cuts lousy" appeared to imply that Freud and Forrest also cut lousy :}:}:}
After re-reading Never mind LOL LOL LOL
I have already gone into the shop and consoled my Freud blades and they understand you weren't being mean to them ROFLMAO
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You must be closer to your blades than I am....I can never tell what mine are thinking other than that they always seem to be lusting for blood!
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I thought maybe what I said might have been misconstrued. I love the Freud blades. I have four of them in use now. I've been buying them from TylerTools.com, good prices and good service.

I really love my Forrest blades but have run into a problem with them on two occassions. The problem has been that when I sent them off to be sharpened, they never returned. Maybe they were jealous of my affair with the Freud blades?
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I tried out my new Freud blades, what a difference. They are great. I can't blame my screw up's on a bad blade anymore. I overcome one hurdle and another one crops up.
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You get what you paid for. You need to go with carbide. At a minimum go with a 24 tooth Freud. If you want to go full bore get a Forrest.
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I tried out my new Freud blades, what a difference. They are great. I can't blame my screw up's on a bad blade anymore. I overcome one hurdle and another one crops up.

Glad you took my (our) advice. I have had mine for 10 years now. Sharpened only once. Only because I used it on a run of melimine cabinets. If you only use it on real wood it will last a good long time for you.

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Knotscott: If you reveal what I am about to tell ya, gonna have to hunt ya down LOL;
Regards lust for blood: SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Use the RED COATED Freud blades!!!!!!! Cant see it ROFLMAO!
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Knotscott: If you reveal what I am about to tell ya, gonna have to hunt ya down LOL;
Regards lust for blood: SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Use the RED COATED Freud blades!!!!!!! Cant see it ROFLMAO!
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Well, somebody was thinking outside of the box with that idea! Mums the words!
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