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post #1 of 7 Old 03-15-2020, 09:13 AM Thread Starter
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Need help figuring out what kind of joint is most likely used here

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I need help figuring out what kind of joint that is most likely used in the drawer assembly in this picture. I`m guessing either a simple rabbet joint, dado (double dado) joint, or rabbet and dado joint. Or maybe something else. As you can see from the picture, the thing with this joint is that you cannot see the joinery at all (looking at the drawer from above). So it must be some sort of of a blind «trick» in the end. Make also notice to how thin the material of the drawer side is, and also the fact that the drawer front is thicker than the sides. I`m quite sure that this is made out of oak wood.

Since it is a drawer front joint with the drawer side in a kitchen drawer, I`m assuming that the joint used have some mechnical strenght to it, not just glued up, like in a simple rabbat joint.

I would be truly grateful if any out there could help me out with this one. Even better if any could tip me off with some links to plans, youtube videos and instructuons on how to make this type of joint.

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post #2 of 7 Old 03-15-2020, 09:50 AM
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Simple rabbet joint. Other joints also calling rabbet joints. Many ways to making rabbet joints with table saw or router or router table or hand plane or others.

Here: https://www.google.com/search?q=rabb...=lnms&tbm=isch
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As said, the joint on the front is a rabbet. The other joints on the dividers look to me to be just butt joints.


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post #4 of 7 Old 03-15-2020, 01:26 PM
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You would probably be better off with a version of a locking rabbet joint as it will be much stronger.

http://sawdustmaking.com/TableMaking/drawer.html

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Hi,
Thanks for taking the time to leave a reply.

I also believe it might be just a simple rabbet joint. The only reason I find it difficult to think so, is due to the fact that this kitchen manufactor makimg these drawers, Kvanum, is a (very) high priced exclusive kitchen manufactor, known for crafting very strong and durable kitchen. Their kitchen drawers are exclusively made out of solid wood (oak) and something they call four-side drawers. Don`t know exactly what they mean by that? Could it be similar to the quarter-quarter-quarter system you think? However, I find it a bit unlikely that their joint for the front of the drawer is only clued up with the sides, which from my understanding is the only possibility when using a simple rabbet / butt joint, as is suggested being used here.

I link to the facts about Kvanum kitchen:

https://www.kvanum.com/fakta-om-kvaenum/

Like FrankC suggest, one would be better off with a version of locking rabbet joint. Could it be possible to make a locked rabbbet joint that does not protrude in the end (the dado and the looking pin/dovel) and make it look like a butt joint?

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A four side drawer is basically a box with a back, two sides and a front that a separate false front attaches to. A three sided drawer has a back, two sides and the drawer front is part of the actual drawer.

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Doesnt look very "high end" to me.
i know nothing about nothing, but i have made drawer dividers that actually meet, and are rolled over edged, and that piece that sticks up proud next to the knife section with the silly compartment so small even they cant find anything to stick in it? W/T/F?.

High end often just means you pay a lot, it dont always mean its worth the money.

If there isnt much weight in the drawer, that simple joint will be ample to hold up. If there was a lot of weight, I would use a lock mitre joint.

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