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I have been screwed by 11/16 vs 13/16 many times. Something that wouldn't happen in metric. But you can transpose numbers just as easily while you are in the heat of building something.

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I often eyeball dimensions and use a story stick to get all of the legs the right length and my marking gauge is uncalibrated. I then avoid both systems. ya can't misread a rule if ya don't use one!!
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Do you build entire kitchens with that method? All subsequent parts, doors drawers etc. I can see using that system for overall dimensions but not for inter-part dimensions.

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I have been screwed by 11/16 vs 13/16 many times. Something that wouldn't happen in metric. But you can transpose numbers just as easily while you are in the heat of building something.
Using your numbers, and how you write, you could mistake 1 1/16 for 11/16, or 1 3/16 for 13/16.








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Ditto!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you must use a tape...........Tape Avail. in Imperial, Metric and Mesopotamian (cubits).
Good thing they have different ones.








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Using your numbers, and how you write, you could mistake 1 1/16 for 11/16, or 1 3/16 for 13/16.
It usually just taking a measurement and then transferring it to my pc. And it never works in reverse. I never read 13/16 and it is really 11/16. It is always the other way and I need to get a new pc.

It would be pretty hard for me to make that mistake, I don't write my numbers in a way that I could confuse the inch number for the fraction.

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Do you build entire kitchens with that method? All subsequent parts, doors drawers etc. I can see using that system for overall dimensions but not for inter-part dimensions.
My last 3 kitchens were built using the stick method. Albeit, not exclusively. But, as to your inter-part query, that is where the stick method is most valuable. ie. flush drawer fronts, flush doors, and their panel sizing.

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I just use a tape for that. Plus the computer generated drawing make the parts numbers pretty absolute. The Wixey gauge on the saw makes parts sizes and repeatability very consistent.

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Why would you need a computer to divide measurements? I have never built anything so large that I could not do most of the math in my head. Or a pencil and the back of a board if more complicated.

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I guess the difference is that you grew up with inches and I did not.
Calculator, or computer same thing. I normally keep my drawings on my laptop, so it's always in the shop.

One of the biggest challenges we always faced, when I was is in this business with my father, was teaching craftsmen how important accuracy in woodwork is, when building complex furniture.

Those who were hard headed, learned the hard way on a bigger job, when a 1/16" inch in the wrong place gave them 1/2" out somewhere else and it was not fixable. It can also make the difference between tight unstressed joint lines and joints with gaps.

When setting up a furniture factory for mass production, 1/32" will not cut it. Imagine having a auto process cutting strips out of a 8x4 plywood and each is out 1/64" on the one side. When the last is cut, we are totally out of square.
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The metric system. Have their key problems.
Different shops. Different people.
For example:
At 0.8 meters
In 80 centimeters
At 800 millimeters

Man says. Two zero eight.
What is it 208 or 2080 or 2800. Centimetres or Millimeter?
Mistakes do happen.
Man measures. and said distance. second person writes.
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Apparently none of you people ever owned a 1976 Chevy. That damned thing had both meteric and SAE bolts! Nearly drove me crazy every time I had to work on it.

I've worked with both systems and while distance measurements may be easier, volume and temperatures are not. If its 83F here, its 30 or 40C there?

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"I had a metric hammer once...it came with no instructions...I ditched it... "

LOL!

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"I had a metric hammer once...it came with no instructions...I ditched it... "

LOL!
I had an imperial wife once. Almost the same thing, the instructions never worked. I ditched her................
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hmmmm

rrich was quoting my signature line here;

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"I had a metric hammer once...it came with no instructions...I ditched it... "

LOL!


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Apparently none of you people ever owned a 1976 Chevy...
Nor a late-model Harley-Davidson(!)
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imperial wife... the instructions never worked...
Hers or yours?
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imperious/imperial

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I had an imperial wife once. Almost the same thing, the instructions never worked. I ditched her................
This definition would be appropriate:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/imperious
im·pe·ri·ous

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adjective 1. domineering in a haughty manner; dictatorial; overbearing: an imperious manner; an imperious person.

2. urgent; imperative: imperious need.

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I figure I already have enough stuff to do without trying to relearn to do something I do just fine in the first place.
and BTW...why is it called "imperial" anyways? lets change it to "democratic" and see how long it takes it to turn "communist"

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