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Loose tenon to join end grain to long grain?

Hi, all.

I am working on a small, basic coffee table base and am wondering if a dowel inserted through both pieces is a proper, secure method to join end grain to long grain.

The photo is a test run on some scrap wood.

Wood: Joining two pieces of 1x2" pine, end grain to long grain
Method: 3/8" dowel inserted 3 inches through both pcs.
Glue: Loctite PL glue, will be clamped 24 hrs

Any thoughts on whether this method will create a stable joint that will last? Do I need to do anything else to this joint to secure it?

Is this an example of a loose tenon (aka slip tenon or floating tenon) or is that something different?

Thanks in advance.

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A loose tenon is similar to a dowel joint but technically different. Loose tenon is pretty much an oval shaped dowel. Doweling is, in general, a perfectly fine way of joining boards. People will argue that a M&T joint is stronger, but that's tenuous at best. Personally, I find dowels to be quicker to use, and they've all held up fine thus far

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Agree with epic. It will make a fine joint.

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dowels have certain limits

Dowels will not prevent the pieces from rotating which is why they are often used in pairs. This pairing acts more like a mortise and tenon to resist certain forces. The Domino or loose tenon will do the same, and is better than a single dowel.
For chair legs or tables where there may be side forces, use 2 dowels if possible when joining a vertical to a horizontal piece. Also drill the hole a bit deeper than needed to allow a place for the glue to push into OR make a groove on the dowel to allow the glue to press out of the hole ....common doweling practice.

The answer to your question will only be as detailed and specific as the question is detailed and specific. Good questions also include a sketch or a photo that illustrates your issue. (:< D)
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