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Which bench? I haven't ever seen any there I'd want to use with hand tools... either they're not solid enough or they're edged with metal. If they actually have one with a good top, I might buy one just for that, to simplify my next build.
It must have been this one. http://www.homedepot.com/s/work%2520bench?NCNI-5

I didn't pay a great deal attention to it as I only use 4'x8' workbenches. The thought was to this forum with many beginers struggling to build a small work bench. The price went up quite a bit since I looked at the one in my local store. It was selling for $55.00
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yeah that's what i've been picking up from people. I want to buy some simple starter tools and then just let each project decide what else I need. Time really isn't an issue for me so if I don't have a tool I can just get whatever I need in the mean time.
Bingo. Also remember that the skills you develop will be with you the rest of your life. Being able to say, "I made that by hand" is a true pleasure of this hobby.

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It must have been this one. http://www.homedepot.com/s/work%2520bench?NCNI-5

I didn't pay a great deal attention to it as I only use 4'x8' workbenches. The thought was to this forum with many beginers struggling to build a small work bench. The price went up quite a bit since I looked at the one in my local store. It was selling for $55.00
That link just takes me to a list of all their benches... what's the new price? Is it the $70 folding one?
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That link just takes me to a list of all their benches... what's the new price? Is it the $70 folding one?
The $70 one is the one I looked at and was referring to. It looks like it would be wobbly to me. Even a total novice could make something just as good or better for less.
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The $70 one is the one I looked at and was referring to. It looks like it would be wobbly to me. Even a total novice could make something just as good or better for less.

I agree. The bench I built -- which was the first large scale thing I'd built -- is far more solid. I think the total cost for the lumber was around $100, and since you'd need a vise anyway for the folding one, I'd say the wood is the fair comparison.
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Hand tools

At the beginning, I was not too keen on using hand tools. I liked the IDEA of it, but I knew that my capacity for precision was minimal at this point, and I wanted a machine to help me. More and more, however, I find myself using my hands for projects. My bandsaw is indispensable, but it's only got a 13 1/2" throat. Where does that leave me with long stock? With a miter box and backsaw. I like the control of hand tools. If something is going south, I can slow down or ease off. Machines are on or off. A slip on a machine can ruin stock, or worse. A slip with hand tools can as well, of course, but you are more in control. Most of my hand tools were acquired for their aesthetic. The best example is a Millers Falls breast drill: I was picking up some machinery that I was given, and the fellow asked me if I wanted anything else from his deceased father's shop. I picked up the breast drill, and knowing Millers Falls quality, took it home. The other night, I was driving some long wood screws through some very old oak, and my hand drill was bucking badly. After stripping out a couple, and blistering my hands with a screw driver, I thought "what the heck? Can't get any worse." That breast drill smoothly and efficiently drove those screws through like that oak was lard. I could not stop laughing. This is just one example of how my "decorations" have become some of the most used items in my shop. For me, all wood working is meditative, so I don't NEED to spend 6 hrs smoothing a bench top by hand. If I feel like it, I will. If not, I won't. Simple. You said it was a hobby, which is something you are supposed to enjoy. However you enjoy it most, that's the "right" way.

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i have looked at those benches. the way the legs attach, it is certain to be wobbly
I looked at the bench today and I agree with you if it was used as directed. The legs were intended to fold up so you could put the bench in storage when not in use. A person could glue and fasten those legs on were it would make a reasonably solid bench.
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That link just takes me to a list of all their benches... what's the new price? Is it the $70 folding one?
Yes it is the $70.00 one. When I first looked at it I didn't pay attention to the fact it was made for the legs to fold. There is no reason it couldn't be glued together.
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At the beginning, I was not too keen on using hand tools. I liked the IDEA of it, but I knew that my capacity for precision was minimal at this point, and I wanted a machine to help me. More and more, however, I find myself using my hands for projects. My bandsaw is indispensable, but it's only got a 13 1/2" throat. Where does that leave me with long stock? With a miter box and backsaw. I like the control of hand tools. If something is going south, I can slow down or ease off. Machines are on or off. A slip on a machine can ruin stock, or worse. A slip with hand tools can as well, of course, but you are more in control. Most of my hand tools were acquired for their aesthetic. The best example is a Millers Falls breast drill: I was picking up some machinery that I was given, and the fellow asked me if I wanted anything else from his deceased father's shop. I picked up the breast drill, and knowing Millers Falls quality, took it home. The other night, I was driving some long wood screws through some very old oak, and my hand drill was bucking badly. After stripping out a couple, and blistering my hands with a screw driver, I thought "what the heck? Can't get any worse." That breast drill smoothly and efficiently drove those screws through like that oak was lard. I could not stop laughing. This is just one example of how my "decorations" have become some of the most used items in my shop. For me, all wood working is meditative, so I don't NEED to spend 6 hrs smoothing a bench top by hand. If I feel like it, I will. If not, I won't. Simple. You said it was a hobby, which is something you are supposed to enjoy. However you enjoy it most, that's the "right" way.

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That helps me a lot. I appreciate the real life example! And I agree with you, it's a hobby so why not enjoy it! Thanks!
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Once you fall in love with hand tools functioning in synchronous with modern machinery, the addiction is unreversable.

Purchase a high quality lathe, with a set of high quality turning chisels (the hand part), and you will understand.

Pure mathematics is, in it's way, the poetry of logical ideas. - Albert Einstein.
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