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How deep to drop the bowtie keys in.

I am installing bowtie keys on a table top. These will be largely a design feature rather than structural. The key stock is 11/16" thick and the tabletop is roughly 1 1/2".
How deep should I drop them into the top?
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post #2 of 11 Old 05-16-2015, 12:47 PM
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depends....

It depends on the thickness of course. As with tenons and such 1/3 or so of the thickness is a rule of thumb. This may help, but the guy is "tedious' to listen to:
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Since the bowties are for looks rather than structural, the depth of the tie can be as thin as 1/4"". No need to make it more difficult than it has to be.
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going as to what is said above. you could just indeed just veneer it!
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Thanks for this great help everyone!
I did check out that video and it was really instructive. Very laid back but instructive.
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Wow I had no idea bow ties really didn't work. This is just for looks?
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I don't think so....

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Since the bowties are for looks rather than structural, the depth of the tie can be as thin as 1/4"". No need to make it more difficult than it has to be.
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Wow I had no idea bow ties really didn't work. This is just for looks?
Where did you read that bit of fallacy? They are indeed "structural" as they prevent the further expansion of the crack as stated in the video and otherwise well known to woodworkers. They are also call Dutchmen, dovetails keys etc. and used to repair cracks in table tops or large planks:

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Wow I had no idea bow ties really didn't work. This is just for looks?
Bow ties do work. It is just that the OP is not needing it to be functional. He is using the bow ties as a purely decorative feature or to hide an ugly spot in the wood. He is not using it to stabilize a crack. If he was, then it would be important to get it thick enough. Since he isn't, he could just veneer it, but will probably want to go a little deeper than that just for ease of working and getting it properly secured.
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Wow I had no idea bow ties really didn't work. This is just for looks?
They can be either structural or decorative.
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well, OK

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They can be either structural or decorative.
They are always structural, but may also be decorative.

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Where did you read that bit of fallacy?
Oops I misread the 3rd post.
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