First attempt at dovetails - Woodworking Talk - Woodworkers Forum
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 14 Old 11-13-2016, 04:21 PM Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 9
View TheOak84's Photo Album My Photos
First attempt at dovetails

I bought some wood cut offs at Rockler, im not sure what kind it is, i never asked either.

It cuts fine vertically, but i noticed that it was rough on the end grain inside the pins and rails. I tried to clean it up with my chisel, but its all chattered. Ill post a picture.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	image_1479072073892.jpg
Views:	214
Size:	51.8 KB
ID:	261922  

TheOak84 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 14 Old 11-13-2016, 07:23 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Tucson Arizona
Posts: 127
View MatthewEOD's Photo Album My Photos
Im not an expert, but it looks good to me.
MatthewEOD is offline  
post #3 of 14 Old 11-13-2016, 08:42 PM Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 9
View TheOak84's Photo Album My Photos
Thanks, i will get a better grade of wood to work with next, and actually make something functional.
TheOak84 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #4 of 14 Old 11-13-2016, 08:48 PM Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 9
View TheOak84's Photo Album My Photos
Here is the area i was talking about, i cant describe it other than its hard to make smooth and hard to chisel. Anyone have any ideas of what kind of wood thing is?
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	image_1479087987834.jpg
Views:	165
Size:	67.7 KB
ID:	262042  


Last edited by TheOak84; 11-13-2016 at 09:03 PM.
TheOak84 is offline  
post #5 of 14 Old 11-14-2016, 01:58 AM
Village Idiot
 
epicfail48's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Springfield MO
Posts: 4,941
View epicfail48's Photo Album My Photos
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOak84 View Post
Here is the area i was talking about, i cant describe it other than its hard to make smooth and hard to chisel. Anyone have any ideas of what kind of wood thing is?
Kinda hard to tell with the picture at that angle. My moneys on birch, from what i can see

I need cheaper hobby
etsy.com/shop/projectepicfail
epicfail48 is offline  
post #6 of 14 Old 11-14-2016, 06:49 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Florida Panhandle
Posts: 12,466
View GeorgeC's Photo Album My Photos
I suspect that you have a dull router bit. Those cuts are rough in all areas. What speed are you using?

On the other hand, if the two pieces are a good fit I think that if you sand the end product the roughness will not show.

George
GeorgeC is offline  
post #7 of 14 Old 11-14-2016, 02:04 PM Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 9
View TheOak84's Photo Album My Photos
Quote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeC View Post
I suspect that you have a dull router bit. Those cuts are rough in all areas. What speed are you using?

On the other hand, if the two pieces are a good fit I think that if you sand the end product the roughness will not show.

George
Those are hand cut. I sharpen my chisels daily.
TheOak84 is offline  
post #8 of 14 Old 11-14-2016, 02:30 PM Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 9
View TheOak84's Photo Album My Photos
These were practice, first attempt. I want to buy some walnut for next time.
TheOak84 is offline  
post #9 of 14 Old 11-14-2016, 05:03 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: Garland, TX
Posts: 4,232
View Toolman50's Photo Album My Photos
I think you did quite good for your first attempt.
Your wood is Poplar. A good wood for you to train on. Good for drawers.
Go too fast, the router bit will cut rough.
Go too slow, the router bit will burn the wood.
Cutting in increments rather than trying to cut it in one pass can sometimes be beneficial.
All woods don't cut the same.

If you don't have time to do it right the first time, when will you have time to do it over?
Toolman50 is offline  
post #10 of 14 Old 11-15-2016, 06:35 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Florida Panhandle
Posts: 12,466
View GeorgeC's Photo Album My Photos
Quote:
Originally Posted by Toolman50 View Post
I think you did quite good for your first attempt.
Your wood is Poplar. A good wood for you to train on. Good for drawers.
Go too fast, the router bit will cut rough.
Go too slow, the router bit will burn the wood.
Cutting in increments rather than trying to cut it in one pass can sometimes be beneficial.
All woods don't cut the same.
He says the cuts in the picture were hand cut.

George
GeorgeC is offline  
post #11 of 14 Old 11-21-2016, 01:36 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Lewistown PA
Posts: 293
View jeremymcon's Photo Album My Photos
Look pretty good! Nice work not splitting the boards by trying to whack together a joint that's too tight. I have been messing with hand cut dovetails, and have done that several times.

The rough spot you are referring to is always rough. There's no reason it should be smooth - it can't be seen, and it's all end grain, so it doesn't add much strength to the joint when glued anyway.

I've heard that a lot of woodworkers will actually undercut that area to ensure that the joint goes together nicely.
jeremymcon is offline  
post #12 of 14 Old 11-21-2016, 10:20 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: On the farm in West Texas cotton country
Posts: 639
View WesTex's Photo Album My Photos
First attempt at dovetails

What Jeremy said. Looks don't count there. Looks really good for a first try. I think you'll like working with walnut. I really do. I'm one of those, though, that strongly react to handling it. It stains my hands something fierce!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
WesTex is offline  
post #13 of 14 Old 11-21-2016, 11:14 AM Thread Starter
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 9
View TheOak84's Photo Album My Photos
Thanks!
TheOak84 is offline  
post #14 of 14 Old 11-23-2016, 02:04 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Southern Oregon
Posts: 67
View kramar74's Photo Album My Photos
Looks very good for your first time hand-cutting dovetails. They will get better, and you will get faster. As noted abov, I always undercut in the middle to insure a good fit. Other than that, be judicious in your cuts and make sure those chisels are sharp, sharp, sharp!!! Keep practicing!

"You will learn more from forests than you will from books. Trees and stones will teach you that which you can never learn from masters."
kramar74 is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Woodworking Talk - Woodworkers Forum forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
There was some interest in my half mitered dovetails so I decided to do a tutorial Wes Harville General Woodworking Discussion 2 11-13-2016 10:22 PM
2nd attempt with Rockler dovetail jig bigarm Joinery 3 01-13-2016 08:40 PM
dovetails punkin611 Joinery 4 09-26-2015 02:06 PM
Girls toybox justtim5961 Design & Plans 12 08-18-2015 06:34 AM

Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome