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post #21 of 24 Old 12-30-2011, 07:16 AM
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If I've unintentionally "taken a shortcut", then so be it. I'm already over 100 hours into this project so I can't say as I feel that I've tried to cut corners any step of the way. In fact, the assembly method came from this Popular Mechanics article on how to build a bookcase.

On the other hand, every moment I don't have to spend reading a stack of books to research up on techniques is another moment I get to spend time with my family before I'm tasked to deploy, and hence why I ask here. Your Special Forces sword patch tells me that you might understand where I'm coming from.

As it stands right now, I'm looking at a combination of glue, the snipped finishing nails and some #0 biscuits. Thanks to everybody who replied.
The reference to "shortcut" is more of doing the work in a fashion that may seem to be easier or faster. It's a little late now, but for future projects, there are some thoughts to consider. Where you find you might be saving time, it may become time consuming. For example, when the cabinets are installed unfinished, i.e., no faceframe, it becomes a PITA. There are other problems that may be unforeseen. Keeping the cabinet square, and having the face frame end up being placed exactly where intended. There's also aligning the biscuit slots (if you use them...as the article states) on both the front edge and on the face frame. That is easier to do on the bench or floor.

Personally I don't use biscuits. You still would need a mechanical fastener, or clamps, which brings you back to where you are now. At the onset of planning the work, it's difficult to envision the entire project to make each step of it the most productive and efficient.






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You could mount the face frames by nailing in a 4d finishing nail into the front edge of the cabinet, and snipping off the head at an angle leaving about 1/2"-5/8" protruding, and then put some glue on the leading edge of the cabinet and pound the frames onto the nails.




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I do this for mounting my face frames. I have a problem with the frames moving while clamping. I cut the nails off at about 1/8" and center the face frame. Then when clamping the face frame it doesn't move.
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I do this for mounting my face frames. I have a problem with the frames moving while clamping. I cut the nails off at about 1/8" and center the face frame. Then when clamping the face frame it doesn't move.
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I first started using that method in the early 70's when remodeling kitchens. There were always those times when installing a back splash, to keep it straight and keep it down on the counter top and against the wall.

So, I set some finish nails and snipped them off at an angle. Lay down a bead of Polyseamseal (also on the back of the splash), and use a block and hammer and tap down the splash. Works like a charm.

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Lots of good ideas on securing the face frames. Personally, depending on the finish, glue and pin nails would be the easiest for me. Next to that would be the edge clamps; those ones at Rockler look nice. Here is a link to Lee Valley who has forged edge clamps but they look smaller that the ones at Rockler. I've used these forged ones for years on small hardwood edgeing but never for face frames. http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/pag...838,43857&ap=1
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