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Breadboard End Help

I am making our farmhouse kitchen table and am new to it. It is 1 5/8" thick and is a 44" by 8'. For my breadboard end, I am doing a mortise and tenon. What are some suggestions for doing the mortise on the breadboard end? I have a forstner bit, but it's going to take a lot of drilling. I do have a router, but not a fence for it.

Could anyone pass on ideas for me please? It's a 2" deep mortise as well.
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post #2 of 7 Old 02-15-2020, 03:08 PM
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You need a self-centering mortising jig ....

Like this:


Or buy one:
https://www.amazon.com/MLCS-9099-Uni...a-434819679974


https://www.rockler.com/rockler-comp...AaAv2wEALw_wcB


I make all my mortises using a self-centering jig I made. it's a bit complicated to describe but here's some photos:
https://www.rockler.com/rockler-comp...AaAv2wEALw_wcB

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I have never known of a breadboard end being done with anything other than a tongue and groove joint. Without continuity between your M & T joints, via a tongue, I have to wonder if it would be as effective in helping to minimize potential warpage. Which, after all, is the primary purpose of a breadboard end. Anybody here have experience with it?
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post #4 of 7 Old 02-16-2020, 07:50 AM
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Mortise and tennon bread board ends are poplular .....

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I have never known of a breadboard end being done with anything other than a tongue and groove joint. Without continuity between your M & T joints, via a tongue, I have to wonder if it would be as effective in helping to minimize potential warpage. Which, after all, is the primary purpose of a breadboard end. Anybody here have experience with it?

A tongue and groove is simply a continuous tenon in a long mortise. The traditional mortise and tenon joint creates longer "tenons" but may still have a continuous shorter one. It's very similar, no matter:


Continuous:
https://www.woodworkersjournal.com/a...eadboard-ends/

Long and short:
https://www.woodworkersjournal.com/a...eadboard-ends/



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I have always done it like one really long mortise and tenon like MMWood. It just never occurred to me to use actual tenons and I never saw it done that way til recently. The Mortise and Tenon makes more sense though. The individual M&T's would seem be much stronger than one long groove so splitting is less likely - maybe.

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A tongue and groove is simply a continuous tenon in a long mortise. The traditional mortise and tenon joint creates longer "tenons" but may still have a continuous shorter one. It's very similar, no matter:


Continuous:
https://www.woodmagazine.com/woodwor...ery/breadboard

Long and short:
https://www.woodworkersjournal.com/a...eadboard-ends/

The link in continuous was duplicated in long and short, but it's OK now..... it's been replaced.


Check out these different methods:
https://www.google.com/search?q=mort...UyhTEy42FR06EM

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There is a chance when frequently cleaning the table using a damp cloth that the thin top edge of the breadboard end might tend to curl up with a continuous groove or mortise, less of a chance with the individual mortises, particularly if they are only pinned from the bottom.

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