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Hey guys, so I'm new to furniture making and fine woodworking so I thought I would ask some guys who know more than I do. I'm looking at a few antique planes at a local antique mall. The internet is a wealth of info so I have been able to identify pretty much all of the planes I have seen, except one. I have attached a pic in hopes someone can help. At a guess it appears to be a cheap version of a Stanley #4, but again, I am new to this. Also, am I correct in staying at about $10 for an non-refinished antique plane? Thanks in advance to nyone that can help.
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Yes, $10.00 to $20.00 is about right as long as all the parts are there.

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Manufactured by Sargent

The U shaped lateral adjustment lever indicates Sargent as likely manufacturer. They made planes for many retailers. The frog of your plane is stamped steel rather than cast iron. I have experience with this design. It is not as useful as cast iron, and I would avoid it in the future. That being said, it can be tuned and function. The blade adjustment knob (wheel) is also stamped. This may indicate is was sold under a Montgomery Wards label. Again, look for solid adjustment knobs made of brass (preferred) or steel. Signs of higher quality planes. Sargent made many higher quality planes under many labels. This is not one of them.



If you buy it, ensure the base if flat, lap as necessary, and create a sharp cutting edge on the iron. Ensure the chip breaker meets the iron with no gap and see if you want to keep it.
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Plane frogs

On the left is a stamped frog. On the right, cast iron. The stamped frog plane has a tendency to chatter, even with an extremely sharp blade. I suspect the stamped frog allows additional deflection under load that the cast frog helps dampen. It is fine for soft wood and thin shavings.


I would not pay more than $5 for a stamped frog plane that needs clean up, unless you just like to restore things like I do, and can't pass up a charity case. ;/)
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Red, I have the same sheet metal frog on a #3 Fulton plane I got at an antique mall. After tuning it up, it still chattered. What I did to correct it was to cut 1/8"x 1/2"x 1/2" tool steel and made washers, that I used to hold the frog tight to the sole. Worked great! The blade adjustment wheel on the Fulton plane turns opposite direction than a Stanley/Bailey plane...but other than that it works great.

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Thanks guys

I appreciate the info. I apologize if I was unclear in the beginning. I didnt buy this plane, I was looking at it and snapped a couple pics to try and reference to see if it was worth buying, but to no avail. I couldnt find anything close. I am pleased to know I didnt spend the money to buy it. My first plane taught me to research and ask questions if I'm unsure of anything. Boy that purchase was a bad decision...lol. My first was an impulse but. A Stanley #5 type 9. Turns out this was the plane that introduced me to the term Franken plane. The only original part, at least I believe it was, was the front knob.
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