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Which tools i need this project...

Hi guys...

My best friend is a personal trainer... He will open new his gym.. He wants than me these projects for his new gym.. i said i cant do that.. He don't listen to me.. i said o.k i will try it.. but i don't promise you..

Yes guys.. They will be my first wood carving projects..
My questions

1) What kind of wood ?? i have to use at these projects??? Hardwood or softwood pine walnut oak or beech

2) Which tools i need these projects??
i have a rotary machine 10mm. 5mm. 3mm. chisels mallet and hammer..

Their lenghts will be one metre...
I know They are not easy for my first wood carving projects. .
I will try it ..i hope i can do that..

I am waiting for your advinces...

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I want to order Electric Chain Saw Adapter .. can i use it on these projects? I have beech wood .. what do you think beech wood for these projects? What carving knife set can i use for these?

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Main thing is are you confident about your skill level?. We do have some expert carvers on the forum.
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Main thing is are you confident about your skill level?. We do have some expert carvers on the forum.
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Thanks for your answer. ..

Main thing is are you confident about your skill level?.

I honestly i dont know my skill level at wood carving... we will see... if i don't have any talent at wood carving.. CNC router machine will help me.. but i dont want help than CNC now...

We do have some expert carvers on the forum.

Where are they ?????

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Faith - I really admire your confidence and enthusiasm !!

I was thinking that if you need some photos for the male project,
I could send you some of my photos of when I was younger (much younger)
that you can use to get the muscle tones correct.
I am right handed, so I had to rotate the photo to look more like me.

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I can't draw the human body on a piece of paper so I'm certain I can't carve one.
Good luck and please keep us posted on your progress.
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I have tried carving and I know I have no talent for this. Your friend is asking a lot of you. Personally I would give it a try on a soft wood that carves easily. If you fail to get better after the 14th try, give the carving tools to your friend and tell him to carve it himself.
I had a similar request, not on carving but on installing a 6200 sf of quarry tile. I told the guy I never laid quarry or any tile. I suggested he get a floor tile installer. He told me their prices were out of line. I asked him which installers did you contact. He wrote them down, I contacted the first two and told them I wanted to give him a quote twice what real floor tile installers get.
Both were within $700.00 of each other. The first wanted $1.10 per square foot for labor and profit, client buys the tile, cement etc. Second wanted $.99 a square foot. I asked for $2.25 a square foot for labor and profit.
I did not get the job, he called me a thief. He ate his next few meals thru a straw.
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You need to explain to your friend how difficult something like that is for even the best craftsman who have devoted their lives to carving and sculptures. The labor cost on those would be astronomical to say the least.

There used to be a guy named Mike who lived in Italy who was pretty good with sculptures...he would spend years on a single project tho. He passed away a long time ago but I hear his work is still in incredibly high demand...fetching well into the millions if you can find a piece for sale.
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Faith - I really admire your confidence and enthusiasm !!

I was thinking that if you need some photos for the male project,
I could send you some of my photos of when I was younger (much younger)
that you can use to get the muscle tones correct.
I am right handed, so I had to rotate the photo to look more like me.

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Thank you so much John.. for your kind words. .

Faith - I really admire your confidence and enthusiasm !!

if i dont have my enthusiasm i cant build anything..

if i don't have my confidence myself i cant speak english with you..


I was thinking that if you need some photos for the male project,
I could send you some of my photos of when I was younger (much younger)
that you can use to get the muscle tones correct.
I am right handed, so I had to rotate the photo to look more like me.

Thanks again John.. i dont need your pictures but i need your good advices..

I know your projects.. you are so talent at wood carving. .

What wood i have to use for these ???

I have beech wood for hard wood and poplar wood for soft wood in my workshop ...

If i use soft wood They will not be heavy...
If i use hard wood maybe they will be heavy but its not easy to work with hard wood..

I know.. to choose wood very important for these projects ...
I just want to good choose..



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Here in the USA, Basswood is likely what would be chosen. It's soft and carves easier than almost anything else. You want a soft wood with little grain. Your Poplar would make a good second choice.

Personally I can't imagine jumping in to a project like that with no prior experience. Carve something small and simple first, to see if you like it.
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Carving the human body

Faith - it is not the weight of the carving that is an issue,
it is how can you bolt it firmy to something that will not move
when you start the aggressive work on it.
I have colleagues in my circle that are world renowned carvers in different areas.
one carves caricatures for Disney World and Disneyland. another carves animals
for carousel rides. another carves huge murals in 3-D out of stone.
and me - I don't think I can even carve a fish LOL.
start looking through videos on YouTube of CHAINSAW CARVING and MALE TORSO CARVING
if I were to even attempt such a project, I would use every power tool I had available
to rough it out. then, some very, very sharp chisels and gouges.
just to practice, I would use Balsa Wood. and on the second practice piece, Bass Wood.

here is a
of how to practice on a human head you might find interesting.
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please keep us in the loop as to your progress.

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Here in the USA, Basswood is likely what would be chosen. It's soft and carves easier than almost anything else. You want a soft wood with little grain. Your Poplar would make a good second choice.

Personally I can't imagine jumping in to a project like that with no prior experience. Carve something small and simple first, to see if you like it.
I think so..i can find basswood in here..
I will practise carving on my poplar wood..

Thanks for your advice..

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Faith - it is not the weight of the carving that is an issue,
it is how can you bolt it firmy to something that will not move
when you start the aggressive work on it.
I have colleagues in my circle that are world renowned carvers in different areas.
one carves caricatures for Disney World and Disneyland. another carves animals
for carousel rides. another carves huge murals in 3-D out of stone.
and me - I don't think I can even carve a fish LOL.
start looking through videos on YouTube of CHAINSAW CARVING and MALE TORSO CARVING
if I were to even attempt such a project, I would use every power tool I had available
to rough it out. then, some very, very sharp chisels and gouges.
just to practice, I would use Balsa Wood. and on the second practice piece, Bass Wood.

here is a video of how to practice on a human head you might find interesting.
and also this one.

please keep us in the loop as to your progress.

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Thank you very much for your great advinces..
I recorded these videos in my phone ..
This is my second challenge ...
there is nothing to lose (maybe my time).. but there is a lot to win...
I will share my challenges with you..
Please good luck for me ...Because i will need it..

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Good luck and please keep us posted on your progress.
Thanks.. i promise you..

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I have tried carving and I know I have no talent for this. Your friend is asking a lot of you. Personally I would give it a try on a soft wood that carves easily. If you fail to get better after the 14th try, give the carving tools to your friend and tell him to carve it himself.
LoL i cant do that LoL...

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You need to explain to your friend how difficult something like that is for even the best craftsman who have devoted their lives to carving and sculptures. The labor cost on those would be astronomical to say the least.

There used to be a guy named Mike who lived in Italy who was pretty good with sculptures...he would spend years on a single project tho. He passed away a long time ago but I hear his work is still in incredibly high demand...fetching well into the millions if you can find a piece for sale.
i am not an artist...i will just do a cheap replica.. it doesnt have to be perfect..

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