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Dustless Shop - Does anyone shoot for one?

There’s a Doctor in San Diego California name Tyme who is an advocate for Dustless Work Environments after spending decades treating patients with respiratory illnesses. He’s also a long-time Woodworker with an amazing shop… full of Laguna and Festool goodies.

Take a tour of a magical, dustless shop, Part I –
Take a tour of a magical, dustless shop, Part II –

Big $$$ – but DUSTLESS.

I’m shooting for DUSTLESS on a lower budget.

Is anyone else shooting for a Completely Dustless Shop?

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Not me. I started working professionally in woodworking in 1973 and have been in it ever since. My first job was catching teak and mahogany coming out of a planer with not even a paper mask. I did that for I don't know how many months. I worked for about fifteen years before I worked for any shop that had dust control. It was mainly to remove chips instead of airborne dust. There was as much of airborne dust there as any shop. I didn't put any dust control in my own shop until last year. I had purchased a table saw that required it and was a lot of trouble to remove the dust so the dust collector was bought for that saw. For me dust control is a broom and shovel and I don't have any respiratory problems. I did work for a shop once that used a lot of MDF which I found irritating. There I wore a paint respirator when cutting or sanding.
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No, dustless shop is a luxury for most woodworkers. I sometimes wear a surgical mask when operating the router and sander on exotic hardwoods.

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Dust control is definitely at the top of my spec list in any tool I'm buying now. I have bad lungs (2nd hand smoke when I was very young) and the dust bothers my breathing.

Plus it's a lot easier to clean up a mess that you didn't make in the first place.

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I suspect the reason why that guy's shop is dust-free is because it is also wood-free!

I see a whole lot of emphasis on the tools, and no mention whatsoever as to what he makes. That alone makes me suspicious. If someone knows/cares enough to post some photos of his work (not his tools), I might change my mind...
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The only way I can think of to have a "dust free shop" is to never do anything in there except clean.
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Why on earth would you want a wood shop with no sawdust? That's like a mechanics shop with no grease...
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that's really a great shop and the guy seems so cool. I think he's cry if he had to work in my shop. As for dust, I'm so far away from being able to control it, at this point I would just like to get a good mask.
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We ran 650'of Cherry through a cpl shapers a week or so ago.What chips/dust that wasn't picked up by the system could fit in a coffee mug.Even I was impressed.


We have standing agreement with friends with shops,when someone first walks in.They do an immediate assessment of the dust.It has been working pretty well because of the objectivity.
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Like an earlier contributor, I and my friends spent a lot of years working in dusty shops and none of us have any issues, so I decided that for me going to extraordinary lengths to capture the last 2% just wasn't worth it.
There was a very interesting article:

https://woodgears.ca/dust/dylos.html

in which it's claimed that with even a cheap dust collector you get cleaner air in your shop than outside air. In any case, I weekly put on a mask, spin up the air comp, and blow up the dust from the entire shop while running the dust collector. It amazes me how quickly the air clears, and how little dust remains when I repeat the process a little while later.
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I was never one for "total dust free", however, I was very big on almost dust free. I would sweep after every change in operation, that is, after table saw use, joiner or planer use and even the drill press as well as hand planing. This would occur at least twice a day, probably under 10 minutes a pop. This also included putting up ALL of my tools even though I knew I would need them again in a few minutes. I like to start every new operation with a clean shop. Every night before shut down, I would turn on the exhaust fans and use leaf blower to 'blow down'. When I had bigger shops, the employees would do it sometimes with 3 leaf blowers at the same time.
Customers were more impressed with a clean and orderly shop than one that looked like a typical woodworking shop. The time lost in the clean-up and put-up operations was way less than working in a mess and always searching for tools and parts. Also another perk is that if I needed to spray some lacquer on something relatively small, the air was clean enough to do it on my work bench if I wanted to. Even coffee tables can be considered relatively small.
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post #13 of 70 Old 03-16-2016, 06:13 PM
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Shop is absolutely amazing
On a small scale I use Festools for the dust collection. As Mort said- much easier to clean up what's not there.
I'm working on better chip and dust collection for the table saw next.

Cut it twice, measure once and it's still too short.
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In spite of all I do....

I still get settled dust around on tables and horizontal surfaces. I run a Jet 1100 1 1/2 HP DC with a cannister, actual 2 of them, one for the tables and small joiner, the other for the planers and drum sanders. I also hook the Rigid shop vacs to the RAS and to any hand held sanders. I have a JET ASF 1000 3 speed overhead air filtration unit I run when sanding. Even with all that, there is some dust.

I don't know if "dust free" is possible without a monster DC unit, like 5 HP or more and continuous air filtration. :frown2:

http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/f7/du...art-1-a-20273/

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No, not really.

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Garage Shop? Freestanding?

I wouldn't worry about it either.
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I just get tired of cleaning up... not that worried about the health issue.

I love the smell of Oak and Walnut and Maple... the woods that I use most.
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I look forward to having less to clean.

I had a system set up on the floor... basically moving 4" hose around and having it attached to some machines.
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I would guess that I had about a 75% dust collection rate before... with the Jet Air Cleaners getting half of what was left.

I'm shooting for 99% this time.
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Interesting...

I have a few cheap instruments from China... like a laser temperature gauge (good for testing electronic components)... a Luxmeter (Lumens) to test lighting in the shop... and a few others...

But I never considered an air quality meter.

I would just like to have less to clean up.

Plus... I'm divorced... and have ladies visit who don't understand why there is so much dust in the house.
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