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post #1 of 21 Old 08-06-2008, 09:24 AM Thread Starter
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Just your Luck.. Another Noob! :)

Howdy from South Carolina.

I have been enjoying woodworking since my high school days and actually thought about becoming a cabinet maker when I was in school. Well, you know how things go, I went down a different road.

Anyway, I have never lost my love for woodworking.

I had built a nice 24 x 20 foot shop but because of family reasons had to sell that house, and now I have no shop at all.

I'm going to begin setting up a new shop in a smaller space, one slot garage, about 12 feet by 22 feet. I'll have to be very efficient with my lay out.

I have been a year with no shop and it is a big hole in my life. So I decided to sell my car (guy's picking it up tomorrow!) and drive my wife's old Honda Pilot to work. So this way I get a small wood shop.

I hope I can get ideas for effecient shop set up here, on this site.

Here is a web site I have that shows the kitchen in the house we had to sell:
http://pages.villagephotos.com/page.asp?page_id=3957

Anyway, glad to be here!!!
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Welcome. Nice to see something built from primarily solid wood for a change , good work.
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Beautiful work. Love the way you did the sink. I googled that Shaws Original sink, we haven't found the one we want for the dish sink in the kitchen yet. That one appeals to us both.

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Thanks for your kind words fellas!


I'll tell you, I have looked over the site and didn't see a section on "shop layout". I'm not the best with computers so I may have missed it.

If there is not a section like that, would you recommend how best to search the site to see ideas about shop set up? I'm having to try to make a shop in an area only about 12 x 22 feet. I'm sure many folks have had to do this before me and might have good ideas.

Thanks guys!
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We do have a "Show us your shop" thread somewhere, but it depresses me so much I avoid it like the plague.

HERE is a thread with some good ideas though. Maybe it will help. There are other threads as well, but you have to hunt and pick. Try the search engine.
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Thanks TT.

I guess since I'm doing such a tiny shop, I'll take pictures along the way and maybe make a thread for others to see that might have to make a tiny shop.

The over riding 2 ideas I have is to have nothing on the floor that does not have to be, i.e., suspend all shelving from the wall or ceiling and secondly, make all the equipment moveable so it can be rolled in and out.



That won't be ideal, but better than no shop at all!
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If you want to see tiny shop, punch in the search engine "corndog" and wade through his early posts. now *thats* a tiny shop that feller worked out of.
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Welcome, Very nice kitchen there. What part of SC? Florence here.
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Welcome, Very nice kitchen there. What part of SC? Florence here.

I'm in Spartanburg and I have a little place in Charleston as well.
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wormwood. Thats some beautiful work you did man. I have been stock piling a bunch of black walnut just for that sort of project. I actually want to make my own cabinets and floors whenever me and my beautiful wife move into our "rest of our life home". How long did it take you to build those cabinets?

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I worked about 8-10 hours per day for 4 months except Sundays, i.e. about 800 hours maybe.

Then I un-retired so now life is a lot easier!!!!


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Update!

I'm making progress. I moved in all my machines except the shaper, lathe and jigsaw which I have no room for.

In moving the belt sander it tipped a bit and a bunch old sawdust fell on my sweaty hand.

After I finished, I went and sat in my chair inside and as I lifted a glass to my mouth I smelled it. The unmistakable smell of black walnut sawdust! Heaven.


Oh, this is goin' to be fun!

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You did a beautiful job on that house. I am terribly sorry to hear you had to sell it though...

You would be amazed at how much equipment you can fit in a very tiny space. There are lots of users here, and on other ww forums that base their workshops out of small yard sheds, some no bigger than 10x12. So your one car garage would seem cavernous to them! Several members here also have mobile workshops based in cargo trailers...

Put your mind and creativity to it and you will be amazed at what you can do! But judging from that kitchen job, I figure you already know that...

Interested in my woodworking, workshop and whatnot? See http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com, want to see my other interests such as hunting, fishing, off roading, and camping? See http://wildersport-outdoors.blogspot.com
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Great job on the kitchen. Whatever you put in your shop in the way of equipment, just make sure it is all on wheels. Much easier when you can roll everything out in the open to use it.
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Looking at the quality of that work, you may want to consider a u-turn on that road you went down. Truly beautiful and very sensitive to grain matching from the photos shown. Sounds like we have a similar house and shop experiences. I have gone from a 45 x 30' cinder block, dedicated wood-shop (115 AC outlets + 4 220 crcts.), to trying to figure how to work in an 8'x10' shed. So far I haven't even been able to get the few tools I have left IN the shop, much less fit myself in there with them. I have a 14" bandsaw, 6"joiner, 6" x 89" belt sander (that has to go), and my router table. 17" drill press, and a modest assortment of planes, chisels, and hand saws. I am starting to think about tooling up again and feel like a total rookie again. I know I am going to have to go with bench top tools and haven't kept current with them at all. I figure I can make do just fine with a benchtop planer (properly chosen), keep my jointer, trade drill presses, but I am totally stumped on a table saw. Power is not a major concern, as I keep sharp blades, but a really accurate fence and the ability to rip at least 24" are major considerations, and I have no idea who offers what. I am going to get started on a set of work/storage benches next week. I also realize that every inch of wall will have to be used for hand tool storage, so I have beenbusy trying to design small tool holder racks to hang on the walls w/french cleats. Keep us posted on the progress
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I am starting to think about tooling up again and feel like a total rookie again. I know I am going to have to go with bench top tools and haven't kept current with them at all.
I thought about selling all my stuff IF I couldn't get it to fit and buy a multi-purpose machine. I have never seen a "Shop-Smith "(I think thats what they call it) in person so I don't know how good they are, but fortunately I think i will be able to fit almost all my stuff in the small space.

I agree, the table saw, with input area and egress will be the biggest challenge. So far my idea is to use it at the front of the garage with the door open (as long as its not raining!)

Here's the biggest secret..... I'm actually trying to make everything fit in such a way that when I roll it all to the sides I can create a sports-car shaped space right in the middle.

See where I'm going with this?? :)

Cake and eat it too and all that.

I'm hoping that if I grow a little patience with rolling things around, I can not only have a woodshop, but get a fun car to play with as well.
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Do you have to deal with a HOA. If not I have seen a shop that the guy poured a decent concrete patio on the front and added an overhang to give him extra room for the just slightly bigger than the shop projects. I am currently working out of my basement and garage. Desperate for a Large shop. Have to do the Farm Equipment repairs in an open Tool Shed environment right now. Makes Winter and bad weather maintenance killers but does supply extra time to work on projects in the shop.
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Do you have to deal with a HOA. If not I have seen a shop that the guy poured a decent concrete patio on the front and added an overhang to give him extra room for the just slightly bigger than the shop projects. I am currently working out of my basement and garage. Desperate for a Large shop. Have to do the Farm Equipment repairs in an open Tool Shed environment right now. Makes Winter and bad weather maintenance killers but does supply extra time to work on projects in the shop.
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I suppose thats Home Owners Association?

Yes, I cannot build a structure, sadly, nor is enlarging the existing garage possible, :(
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I suppose thats Home Owners Association :(
Yeah: I still live "in the middle of nowhere" as the guys at work put it but the closest town just recently went to a system where you have to get the permission of the City Code Enforcement Officer to builda Shed, Fence, Garage or any other structure on your lot.
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Just think of the $$$ that your hard work generated. That was beautiful work. Wish I could even have that kind of knowledge and talent.
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