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post #21 of 39 Old 02-11-2009, 10:18 PM
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backlighting the tops of the cabinets, countertop

you said building frames for acrylic panels...is your plan to replace the bulkhead panels with opaque plastic panels with lighting behind? or will you still have space up there to set stuff on?
how far out will the panels be? if you wood frame them i assume you will paint them as well?

my rope lights from lowes were only 14$ i think (25 feet?)
my total wood purchases, oak for crown, other oak moulding, oak for brackets and the countertop (two oak glued up stairway treads)for the bar-turned-old style-cupboard came to about $125 and the two oak beadboard panels were 38 a piece. the tops of the cabinets i set stuff on...so i had to build that up higher so displays would be at right height....i re-used the bulkhead panels and scrap wood up there.

i had to replace my counter..it was ugly. so i priced and priced and found the local cabinet manufacturer was the best price....now remember, i already built the countertop for the cupboard so i really didn't have much of a run to purchase..i went with the "waterfall" edge and selected the wilsonart high definition formica. it was $425. i was warned against a solid color and /or super shiney formica...5 places told me that it really doesn't stay nice, scratches will happen and it really will show. so, my high definition has texture and some shine. IF your present countertop (formica?) is flat....no "drip-free" edges and the back splash is either absent or is also flat or squared off...YOU can resurface that with formica (flat pieces from big store). sand it down a bit first, so the contact cement sticks...you'll need help laying the new.....and ask the guys on this forum ...i think u trim it off with a router. you also can save by selecting the big store's in-stock counter. i spent the 425, other made to order places for exact same were as high as $900 and if i would've bought ready to go at Lowes etc it would've cost less than $150. they usually have about 6 colors to chose from. i really reccommend you do not "paint" it. the tv shows tell u it works, the manufacturers of the product say and sponsor the shows....but you are going to put alot of work into this, you don't want to turn around and have to do it again or have the end result actually look like it was a quickie job! be careful!
you will find we all warn against that which we have tried or opinion to be less than best! you post to us what you are going to do and we will assist and support you!
windy here, but electric is still on ! about ready to shut out the lights .....i usually check this site early in ams and in eves....good luck. julie
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Julie! WOW, I had to run to my kitchen to see if you were taking pictures! I've got all the same issues you faced, well, most of 'em. I have most of the tools one would need, and all I have to do is lasso my Superman to help once in awhile. Painting is his Kriptonite, so that's why I find myself here begging knowledge.
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wow....same here...the paint, of course i NEVER allow him to have paint..... i needed his help too! it was rather amusing too....
  1. to take down the bar cabinets
  2. to move a light switch
  3. to assist with placing the new counter
  4. to tighten the sink faucet once in place
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnnnnnnnnddddddd
5. to re do the plumbing under the sink. what a long 6-8 hour day that was for me to have to witness/assist, he has no patience. things didn't go well and it was a sunday and we have to drive at least 18 mile to nearest anything and further to big box store!.............julie
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I think I like the crown addition like you have, as opposed to the backlit acrylic idea, it might look too modern. Check out the kitchen pics I posted, all the countertops are painted w/ envirotech.
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envirotech

i am not familiar with that product. can you do a test spot before you actually use it? could you try it on a bathroom counter to test its durability? does it say if it will it stand up to water, abrasion (pots/pans sliding over ), will it withstand heat from hot dishes, cookie sheets etc? can't wait to hear how your project turns out! have fun!.....oh yea, one other mistake i made (lol) since i really didn't move much and didn't refinish insides of my cupboards i left most everything in them...it was summer when i stained and poly'd.......about a month ago i grabbed a box of instant pudding out , made it....gross...tasted like it had absorbed the stain and poly fumes! actually, was a great diet aid that night! jj
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I'll find the link to the crafty site I found great before & afters...I'll be up for awhile so I'll show the hardware with the pics on my album. I saw one or two you might like as well.
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Here are the envirotech pics. Kitchen and bath applications. This is where I got my "goal" photos.
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...&ct=image&cd=1
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Off topic--about the pictures

How do I delete this?

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Off topic--about the pictures

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i posted the pics..terrible photography..dark here
Julie, what kind of camera do you have? Is it all automatic, or can you adjust exposure settings? Do you have a tripod or something to set the camera on to brace it? Even holding it against a door jamb will steady it.
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added new photos for Julie. What did you think of the pictures on the countertops?
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Why is this thread starting to scare me?


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Julie, what kind of camera do you have? Is it all automatic, or can you adjust exposure settings? Do you have a tripod or something to set the camera on to brace it? Even holding it against a door jamb will steady it.

Mort: it is a kodak z710....i had it set on "night" usually i am very proud of what it and i take together! last night ? hurry.

Mort: why did you ask how to delete

and BadPerson why does this thread scare you?

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Mort: it is a kodak z710....i had it set on "night" usually i am very proud of what it and i take together! last night ? hurry.


Mort: why did you ask how to delete
I understand about the hurrying. You could dial in a stop or two of exposure compensation, and use your spot meter setting. Then brace the camera on a door jam and meter on a dark spot and you should, get better results.


Well, I screwed it up and tried to edit it and screwed it up even more, but I can't find a "delete" button.
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mort...screw ups are ok! i posted to myself early on! it's still in my "account" here lol
i 've got to get off my but and start doing things in eves...i will try to take more pics and try using the "other" buttons!....i downloaded those and had to touch them up to brighten them!! and i do see i wasn't steady...or was that stable? maybe i'm not stable...thats it!!!!!
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Youngwood & Bad Person & Cabinetmaker If you look at my pics you'll see the type of cabinet I have. I said I have builder grade, but my Superman (Wayne) said I was WRONG! He prefers the oak, as I am sure many of you do, but with the oak floors going down, it's too much wood. I am probably the only person on this site that will ever say "too much wood". I still would like to be adopted by the paint pros here. Also you might want to check the link for the envirotech site, you might find it interesting. http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...&ct=image&cd=1
I try and get pics up, I haven't seen my camera since Christmas. Heather
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Why is this thread starting to scare me?
LOL....LOL.......be very afraid
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LOL....LOL.......be very afraid
I am!

That site that talks about putting a finish on with your hands
and clean up with nail polish remover???


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That site that talks about putting a finish on with your hands
and clean up with nail polish remover???
LOL....yummy
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Hey guys, settle down. I have no control over the content of a webpage. What did you think about the product? Don't focus on the technical ability, or lack thereof, focus on the theory & offer suggestions on improving the practical application. I saw potential, so I came here to ask advice and participate in discussion. Other than NOT licking it off your fingers, tell me how you might apply this product, or other ways to use it that were not specified. Heather
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