Capt randy, Welcome from one nubie to another. I'm in Warminster, Bucks Cty and also just recently joined this forum. I used to make fishing lures in the form of dry flies about 40 years ago, but in recent years I mainly fish from the surf with bait and commercial lures. Maybe we can get together sometime in the future. I have breakfast with seven other retired woodworkers on Tuesdays at the Red Lion Dinner, route 611 and County Line rd. Most are scrollsawers and do some impressive work. Welcome to the forum. Bob.