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post #1 of 10 Old 08-11-2009, 10:41 PM Thread Starter
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new at routering, I bought a new router jig at MLCS, IT came with 6 t/ps 3 guide bushings and 6 router bits, the set-up was very hard, but I got it to work ,the set-up was for a 1/2'' box joint with 3/8'' plywood, man what a mess tear-out was bad ,the problem Iam having,, is when Iam cutting the bit is hitting the bed, if I raze the bit, then the pins are to short ,is it true that what the template size is, you use that size wood like 1/2'' box joint then you use 1/2'' wood and so on
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post #2 of 10 Old 08-12-2009, 12:25 AM
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These tools are just hard to setup, once I was thought how to do it, it is so simple, but you must be shown, check out you tube there may be video tutorial's there. Sorry I canít help more. And for tear out, it is either cheap ply or bit. I bet it is the ply.
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post #3 of 10 Old 08-12-2009, 07:46 AM
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They are a pain to set up, but once there they are fairly easy to use. Welcome to the forum.

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post #4 of 10 Old 08-12-2009, 08:02 AM
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I'll give you a hint. After your hellish setup, don't break it down, just buy another router. Sound more expensive than it really is.

I setup a dovetail jig, took almost 6 hours to get it perfect. Then I broke it down because I knew what needed to be done to get it setup again. WRONG. Took me 5 hours the second time. That time I just left the setup and got a new router. Now it takes me 10 seconds to setup. I plug in the cord.

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So you went and bought a new router and all problems went away, its the hitting of the bed that is my problem not set-up but your saying its the router hummm
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We'll let Leo explain

But I think he meant was once the router is set-up with the bit and to the proper depth, leave it that way. Don't use the same router for another project. 5 hrs of (my time at $20 hr) is the cost of a new router more or less. So, each time you have to set it up is another 5 hrs lost. I bought 3 cheap DT jigs from Jet and leave the templates set up with the router to match. Freud FT1700's @ $120. On sale and with the plunge base also. bill

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ok thats undestood,but what about the router bit hitting the bed of the jig thats the question
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post #8 of 10 Old 08-12-2009, 03:28 PM
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Obviously the bit is set too low

But without some pictures it's difficult to know why. The guide bushing usually extends down below the base plate 1/4" to 3/8". The base plate rides on the top surface of the jig as the guide bushing follows in and out of the fingers. Typically you route the top and side pieces in inside out order from one side, then switch sides. If the bit hit the jig it's probably toast and that accounts for the tear out.
There are tons of dovetail videos on U-tube. Check them out.
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http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/f30/d...-videos-10207/
http://www.newwoodworker.com/reviews/rcklrdtjigrvu.html
Close is not good enough for dovetails, right on is correct. Check out routerforums.com for the best on router info. bill

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But I think he meant was once the router is set-up with the bit and to the proper depth, leave it that way. Don't use the same router for another project. 5 hrs of (my time at $20 hr) is the cost of a new router more or less. So, each time you have to set it up is another 5 hrs lost. I bought 3 cheap DT jigs from Jet and leave the templates set up with the router to match. Freud FT1700's @ $120. On sale and with the plunge base also. bill
Yup, that is what I mean. Try it at my shop rate of $65/hr and see how fast you buy another router.

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I fix the problem, I put a thicker piece of wood under the template, so when you router the piece its not so close to the bed, box joints are a whole different type of joint than the rest of the joints, hope that can help someone else
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