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What exactly is the woodworking show? Is it primarily a new-product sales venue or is it a forum for showing off ones work or both?
Is it geared toward the hobbiest or the factory purchasing agent?
The nearest one to me is 5 hours one-way, too far to go look at $15K table saws.
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What exactly is the woodworking show? Is it primarily a new-product sales venue or is it a forum for showing off ones work or both?
Is it geared toward the hobbiest or the factory purchasing agent?
The nearest one to me is 5 hours one-way, too far to go look at $15K table saws.
I'm five hours away...where's the show?
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What exactly is the woodworking show? Is it primarily a new-product sales venue or is it a forum for showing off ones work or both?
Is it geared toward the hobbiest or the factory purchasing agent?
The nearest one to me is 5 hours one-way, too far to go look at $15K table saws.
Woodworking shows, at least the ones I've been to, are mostly stuffed with one-man operations selling things and/or showing off what they've made. Then there are also somewhat larger operations demoing what they sell. BIG shows have the biggest companies showing off products. It's a mixed bag.

Are you by chance looking at the one over in Balston Spa? It's probably about a 5 hour round trip for you, which is what made me think of it. I've been to that one a couple of times.

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I'll try to explain.

Rewind the clock 15 to 20 years, before the Internet explosion.

There were two places to purchase woodworking tools and materials, brick and mortar stores and mail order catalogs. Enter the woodworking show. The show floor was loaded with instructional seminars intended to sell products. Originally these shows offered products and materials at substantial discounts. These woodworking shows were great places for education.

Today the Internet has changed the world of woodworking shows. The educational opportunities are still there. The ability to purchase items at reasonable prices is still there. You will find tools, gadgets and stuff in general that you never even dreamed of. However you will find that your local woodworking source probably have better prices. (Not by much but still usually a better price.)

Today for the price conscious shopper, the Internet is king.

Because of the Internet, vendor participation at these shows has decreased. In the past 5 years or so, the participation at The Woodworking Show at the Orange County Fairgrounds has fallen off close to 50%. Manufacturer participation is significantly reduced.

There were originally two "shows", The Woodworking Show and Wood Works. As Wood Works started to fail, both shows were combined and acquired by a single entity. The gentleman that owns both shows is a woodworker and attempts to present the shows with enthusiasm but it is a difficult, especially in these economic times.

While not in the same class of show, I was talking to a previous vendor at AWFS in Las Vegas. He told me that the smallest booth cost about $4000 and all that included was a table with 2 chairs. His cost for two people, a week in a hotel, meals, transportation to/from Las Vegas and all the "Show Support labor" that he needed to hire would be over $8000. He did not see the return on investment by attending the show.

The last 'The Woodworking Show' that I attended, I was home before dinner. Travel was about 90 minutes round trip and the show opened at noon. I probably spent thirty dollars. (I spent almost $200 at AWFS.)

So now here's the question: "Is there something that your significant other would enjoy doing in the area of the show?"

Drive 5 hours, a nice dinner, a night in a hotel, SO goes off in the morning to do their thing while you do your thing, a nice dinner, another night in a hotel and a drive home. It could be a pleasant weekend away from home.

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Odd, I didn't see Springfield listed in the link.

Anyway, Balston Spa is closer to you, but I don't remember their schedule.

EDIT: OOPS ... it's Saratoga Springs (close to Balston Spa) and the show isn't until March/April next year.

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Odd, I didn't see Springfield listed in the link.

Anyway, Balston Spa is closer to you, but I don't remember their schedule.
I think it's the New England MA ??? Jan 13-15
Just guessing

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Oohh! I'm so there.

Classes for Springfield College starts 1/18. I probably have to take my son back that weekend. Hee hee.
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I think it's the New England MA ??? Jan 13-15
Just guessing
Good catch ... bet you're right

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Good catch ... bet you're right
You going?...Ever been to one before?

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You going?...Ever been to one before?
As I said in post #3, I have been to the one at Saratoga Springs a couple of times. Probably 3, and I'll probably go again some year soon.

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As I said in post #3, I have been to the one at Saratoga Springs a couple of times. Probably 3, and I'll probably go again some year soon.
Sorry...I meant have you ever been to the one in Springfield?
I've been to the JLC shows in Providence RI and they were a blast, learned a lot and came home with cool tool stuff.
I bought a 22 gauge pin mailer, a small compressor, 50' hose, and pins for $125.00.....use it almost everyday in the shop

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Odd, I didn't see Springfield listed in the link.

Anyway, Balston Spa is closer to you, but I don't remember their schedule.

EDIT: OOPS ... it's Saratoga Springs (close to Balston Spa) and the show isn't until March/April next year.
You must be refering to this one: http://www.nwawoodworkingshow.org/ which is a club event in Saratoga Springs.

I'm asking about this one: http://cms.thewoodworkingshows.com/cms/ which is a traveling event.
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Oh, right. I missed that you were asking about a specific show, just thought you meant shows in general. The "club" show in Saratoga Springs is pretty good, not some small local show.

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Wood shows

Good points, Rich. I've been trying to decide whether to take the jump and exhibit at my first woodworking show. You're bang on about the Internet being the king for finding bargains, details, etc. but it's tough even with Google to get the word about about my plywood pouches and other products (saw covers, etc.).
I did a farm trade show this past spring because the other side of my business is farm equipment covers (seeders, round balers, etc.).
Trouble is, I am a one-man shop, doing this part-time and only making enough right now to do about one show a year. I dearly want to get noticed by more woodworkers, but it's hard for them to google something they don't know exists. A woodworking show gives you lots of eyes walking by, but I hear the numbers are dwindling (as shown in some of the posts here).
...sorry if I'm rambling!

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