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Personally I like adding steel dust and shavings to turnings. Normally use super glue for that. Epoxy and stone sounds really neat though, whatcha turning mate?


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If it turns out, it will be a salt mill. I’ll post photos.
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When turning stone it is very important to use good dust protection, much of the dust is very harmful, silica and asbestos are two byproducts that you really want to avoid breathing. I was not aware until recently that soapstone may have veins of asbestos running through it.
Gosh Frank...!!!...I am sorry!!!

I did leave that completely out of every single one of my posts!!! I have a number of friends no longer with us that had been Stone Carvers in Barre, VT. Wood, and any dust for that matter, is cumulatively very hazardous.

I'm sure Quickstep knows this, but not mentioning it for other readers that might not is a mistake for sure on my part!

Thanks for that!!!

And yes, Steatite (aka Soapstone ) most certainly does. Its one of the most common stones I have worked with most of my life. I love it, but it does have its dangers that many overlook!!!

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If it turns out, it will be a salt mill. I’ll post photos.
Looking forward to the photos, it is always interesting to see the next step in one's hobby.

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OK, now we have hazardous dust ........

Further reason for the stones to set in below the finished surface, using a 2 step application process. No need to dull lathe tools, risk a check, catch, or fracture, and no exposure to fine dust from turning with carbide tooling.....

Can I be of any further assistance?

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Further reason for the stones to set in below the finished surface, using a 2 step application process. No need to dull lathe tools, risk a check, catch, or fracture, and no exposure to fine dust from turning with carbide tooling.....

Can I be of any further assistance?
I think you have missed the point of this process, the beauty of the piece is the finished surface of the stone in combination with that of the wood.

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That will be up to the OP.....

Perfection always has it's price ... just sayin'

The answer to your question will only be as detailed and specific as the question is detailed and specific. Good questions also include a sketch or a photo that illustrates your issue. (:< D)
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...???

Clearly now we have you and other members offering..."I think"...opinions as being germane to the OP's project as viable choices...compared to those of use that either..."do it"...and/or have in in-depth knowledge of it covering several modalities and effects...

Perhaps it would be more effective to your argument if you could provide photos of your modalities and effects where you've actual done it.

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That's a lot of images to go through. Can you just present your own photos of your particular work as it relates to the OP's original question? Maybe present a visual flow from beginning to end of the process. That would be helpful.

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My question was about photos of your work. Yet you don't have time to present them here, but you do have time to write. Photos take but a second to upload, faster than you can write and much more illuminating.



Very interesting.

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My question was about photos of your work. Yet you don't have time to present them here, but you do have time to write. Photos take but a second to upload, faster than you can write and much more illuminating.



Very interesting.
I find it interesting that you think anyone is obligated to prove anything to you, particularly someone that is willing to share his knowledge to help the original poster. You don't have a horse in this race, why the attitude?
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I find it interesting that you think anyone is obligated to prove anything to you, particularly someone that is willing to share his knowledge to help the original poster. You don't have a horse in this race, why the attitude?
Frank, there has been a lot of post deleted on this thread and it's currently a mess so you are only seeing part of the story. I've been up all night and not up to the task of cleaning it up. Maybe the other moderators can fix it.
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I find it interesting that you think anyone is obligated to prove anything to you, particularly someone that is willing to share his knowledge to help the original poster. You don't have a horse in this race, why the attitude?
No attitude -just wanted to see the actual examples of what work he had claimed he had done regarding the OP's original question.

And you are right. He's not obligated to prove anything to me. Knowledge is always appreciated, but photos provide proof of the pudding.

Internet forums allow people to pontificate about many subjects without actual experience. Internet 'experts' are everywhere. That's the reason I asked for photos.

Until I see photos I have the only answer possible.
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We have learned all we are goin' to here ....

It's time to close the thread since the bickering is still going on even after some posts were deleted for that reason. Just let the OP decide what's best for him by experimenting with the process as he suggested in the first post. The "right or wrong" way will reveal itself and especially how it looks in the end will be entirely up to him and is not for us to decide.


There's plenty of "how to" instructive videos and from other sources:

A very good article here:
https://suncatcherstudio.com/inlay-materials-wood-tips/

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Frank, there has been a lot of post deleted on this thread and it's currently a mess so you are only seeing part of the story. I've been up all night and not up to the task of cleaning it up. Maybe the other moderators can fix it.
YES.....we ONLY get to see PART of the story......and it seems to be happening more AND a common denominator ....I'll let the readers be there own judge of whom(s)......BUT as of one getting deleted myself I shall speak....

I definitely understand why the mods have a tough job and why some things are deleted.....BUT to help parts of the confusion as MANY parts have been deleted here, I think instead of deleting the entire post, the poster name and the correct order (number) should be left in line so we as a whole know something was posted along with the words/term deleted with the mods name and reason....like inappropriate language, not applicable, derogratory, etc., etc., whatever the reason........ This gives us viewers a few things, whom my be consistant poster with bad actions, whom as a mod might have consistant attitude towards a certian poster, it also gives us a better timeline and understanding why some "dots" don't seem to connect. I'm finding there's a few here that just "have to post a comment period" and not just wow a great job, BUT gets the thread sidetracked due to their lack of true knowledge and craftsmanship causing even more confusion for the future builders.

That's my 2 cents worth, I'd rather people see that I had posted and why the mod chose to delete as the unexplained why don't these post line up.....
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Forum rules of engagement

There ain't none! You simply just dont 'challenge'.
You say your piece, then they say their piece, Then it should normally drop right there and let the OP decide what he likes.
Maybe one rebuttle each, dependin on the situation and the moderators judgement.
Going to war will only lead to one or more getting expelled from the forum.

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I think as a temporary measure, the moderator should clean this up and block the offenders from reposting on this thread. Any steps after that should be on the moderators.
I Think this is a good thread and should not be removed, just the posts in question.

I also think that its time for the people involved to privately kiss and make up and declare a truce. Then let the moderators know that any personal differences have been resolved.

In the past, these posters have proven themselves as very valuable contributing members of this forum and I would hate to sanctions being taken against them.

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YES.....we ONLY get to see PART of the story......and it seems to be happening more AND a common denominator ....I'll let the readers be there own judge of whom(s)......BUT as of one getting deleted myself I shall speak....

I definitely understand why the mods have a tough job and why some things are deleted.....BUT to help parts of the confusion as MANY parts have been deleted here, I think instead of deleting the entire post, the poster name and the correct order (number) should be left in line so we as a whole know something was posted along with the words/term deleted with the mods name and reason....like inappropriate language, not applicable, derogratory, etc., etc., whatever the reason........ This gives us viewers a few things, whom my be consistant poster with bad actions, whom as a mod might have consistant attitude towards a certian poster, it also gives us a better timeline and understanding why some "dots" don't seem to connect. I'm finding there's a few here that just "have to post a comment period" and not just wow a great job, BUT gets the thread sidetracked due to their lack of true knowledge and craftsmanship causing even more confusion for the future builders.

That's my 2 cents worth, I'd rather people see that I had posted and why the mod chose to delete as the unexplained why don't these post line up.....
Tim, the posts that were deleted were from White Cloud at his request. Otherwise I would have left them. More posts should be deleted but the people that made them didn't request it and I'm too tired to sort it out. I would have to report them and then get opinions from the other moderators.

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Once again all this would not have occurred if those that have no knowledge or understanding of the subject had simply read the post and followed along instead of contributing nothing but conjecture.
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Can you imagine how boring things would be if we all agreed on everything?

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When a member asks a question, the odds are very good that there will be a wide range of answers, some of which may be the complete opposite of what you believe. When we see a post (in the responses) that we don't agree with, it is not up to us to prove why their response is right or wrong, or why we think our response it better. Doing so will only confuse the original point of the discussion. Sometimes there is no right or wrong answer. It is up to the original poster to determine which response makes the most sense to them.

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opinion, VS conjecture VS speculation ....

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Once again all this would not have occurred if those that have no knowledge or understanding of the subject had simply read the post and followed along instead of contributing nothing but conjecture.

A whole lot of life's advice is based on opinion and speculation. On a forum such as this you can not limit who posts and what their opinions are unless you become the "Thought Police". I hope that's not what you are suggesting.....? Each one of us has an opinion and has the right to state that opinion or make a suggestion. Your opinion is not more valuable than mine, NOR is mine more valuable or authentic than anyone else's.



This is why I posted "I miss the good old days" and got a bunch of likes and thanks. See Post no. 10.


The constant bickering and challenging of each other's opinions is what is bring the forum down. It's not necessary or desirable.

Post your opinion, and move on.
Other's should respect that opinion OR respectfully disagree, by posting an alternative without constantly quoting each sentence and naming a previous poster. It can be done and always has been done here in a respectful way until recently.

If you have a better idea or a different opinion, post it and move on.


Photos, videos, and linked articles that reinforce your opinions make them more "authentic" and more believable. If I have direct or indirect experience in a subject or a proceedure, I like to do a web search before I post my opinion for verification to see if others have done so. I just makes sense, rather than standing alone and hoping for validation. I have done a whole lot of different things in addition to woodworking, BUT I don't consider myself an "expert" in any of them, with one possible career exception with a 30 year stint.



When being a member here ceases to be fun or challenging is when I will retire from here as well.......
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