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I want to make a small torsion box in the next few months, right now getting ideas and info. I've been following the instructions to setup saw horses to find a flat surface but the problem is I don't have a planer or jointer to make supports for the surface. I also don't have a nail gun to nail the bulkheads. Can you give some tips or ideas on how to do it? I do have most woodworking tools. Maybe this will give me an excuse to buy a compressor and nail gun.
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If you already have a table saw, you don't really "need" a planer to build a torsion box, just rip strips of mdf to the right width. I would consider a nail gun a necessity though, unless you feel like spending weeks clamping everything

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Yes I have a table saw and will be ripping strips for the inside skeleton of the torsion box. What video I've seen do is joint and plane 2x4s to put over saw horses to make a level beginning surface to work with. Maybe I will joint and plane them with my table saw instead?

You are right, the more I get into the hobby and the projects I want to do, a nail gun would be a necessity
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Yes I have a table saw and will be ripping strips for the inside skeleton of the torsion box. What video I've seen do is joint and plane 2x4s to put over saw horses to make a level beginning surface to work with. Maybe I will joint and plane them with my table saw instead?

You are right, the more I get into the hobby and the projects I want to do, a nail gun would be a necessity
When I built mine, I didnt bother with the jointer 2x4s on the saw horses, and I doubt it wouldve made a difference if I had. My shop, like most peoples, is on concrete. Know what's already pretty flat? A concrete pad. Just lay the sheet of whatever on the floor. As long as there isn't a huge cup in your floor, a sheet of 3/4 or even 1/2 mdf does a pretty good job keeping itself flat.

Speaking of mdf, if thats what you're building with you kindve need a nail gun. Mdf does not like hand driven nails

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Know what's already pretty flat? A concrete pad.
Not mine. I think the guys that poured our street also poured our slab. Unlevel and uneven.
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Not mine. I think the guys that poured our street also poured our slab. Unlevel and uneven.
Concrete is probably one of the most difficult surfaces to get "dead" flat and level. A puddle of water is flat and level, but makes a sorry base for a woodworking project.

The torsion box I made is as flat as I need. I used a 2" aluminum bar to check across the sides and top. It's at least as straight as the bar.

Mine is here:
http://www.woodworkingtalk.com/f2/to...rniture-49361/

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Maybe I will find the "sweet spot" in my basement or garage
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But yes any tips to find a flat starting surface or torsion box tips in general would be great
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wait 2 months, lay some 2x4s and a tarp, fill with some water, wait 24 hours. flat ice surface!
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How big is your torsion box going to be?
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I just remade a 25"x144" torsion table for a restaurant that got damage during shipping. I made it on a 4'x8' table with support for the extra 4' feet. You don't want to build directly on concrete but rather on 2x4's turned on edge with shims to get as level as possible. First layer very important to be straight and level. We use 1/2 laps for torsion grid. Nail,screw or just glue and clamp. Apply skirt all the way around and apply final bottom....Rebel
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wait 2 months, lay some 2x4s and a tarp, fill with some water, wait 24 hours. flat ice surface!
Thats... actually a really good idea

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It will be approx 4' x 3' I think. I don't have the room right now for anything bigger. And my projects are not huge anyway.
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And looking for idea on how to make a solid base, that won't cost too much. I don't think I want drawers now, so this might be something temporary
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how about some drawers?

I use these all over my shop to support solid core door slabs.

You could use 4 of them oriented in a "L" shaped arrangement each one backed to the side of the other, to make a rectangle.

The drawers are quite sturdy and have rollers on them and lock shut. I got mine at a used office supply center, about $75.00 each.

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I use these all over my shop to support solid core door slabs.

You could use 4 of them oriented in a "L" shaped arrangement each one backed to the side of the other, to make a rectangle.

The drawers are quite sturdy and have rollers on them and lock shut. I got mine at a used office supply center, about $75.00 each.
I have seen them at the Habitat Restore for less than that. I have a couple I got from work during a United Way Fund Raiser auction for $15 ea.
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Aaron, have you seen my workbench? It is an outfeed table, clamping table assembly table and a place to just beat on stuff.

The top is a solid core door covered with Formica.
The frame is built like a tank using double up 2x construction lumber, screws and lag bolts. The leg levellers are 5/8 inch bolts with two nuts sunk into the leg and glued in place with Gorilla glue. Easy to adjust on my very uneven floor.

But, my table is flat, or as flat as I could ask for it to be. Kreg klamp tracks allow me to clamp all sorts of stuff on the table.

I have slowly added several drawers under it on ball bearing slides as time and material has presented itself. Even built a pull out drawer to go under the bench. :-)

Maybe this will give you some inspiration or ideas for your bench. I have got a lot of use out of it.
Good luck with your build.
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